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Old Sep 27, 2007, 04:41 PM
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E-flite Taylorcraft 450

Hey Guys,


Check Out this Badboy!!!!


http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdId=EFL2625


Ski's,Floats--the possibilites are endless!!!
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 04:48 PM
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Good looking plane. Nice detail (none too light though I'm sure).

I would be curious how it looks "just out of the box". How ARF it really is.

Rod

I suppose it's the 46" span and 31 ounces listed as a "parkflyer" that got my attention
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 04:59 PM
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I stopped reading, and lost all interest in this plane when I got to the 29-31 ounce weight with a 46" wing.

29-31 ounces? What it is built out of, 3/4" plywood and 2x4's???

Chuck


Wing Span: 46 in (1170mm)
Overall Length: 36 in (915mm)
Wing Area: 370 sq in (23.8 sq dm)
Flying Weight: 2931 oz (820880 g)
Motor Size: Park 450 BL Outrunner, 980 Kv
Radio: 6 channels with 4 sub-micro servos
Servos: (4) S75 Sub-Micro servos
Trim Scheme Colors: UltraCote Cream and Dark Red
CG (center of gravity): 2-3/8" (60mm) to 2-7/8" (73mm) back from the leading edge of the wing
Prop Size: E-flite 10x8E electric prop
Hardware Included: yes
Speed Control : 2040 Amp brushless
Recommended Battery: 3S 11.1V 2100mAh Li-Po
Scale: Park Flyer
Approx. Assembly Time: 46 horus
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 05:03 PM
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Guys did you notice it also has a complete cockpit--cloth seats and the such--also wheel pants aka weight you can throw out if you want. If its anything like the latest eflite planes (Mini Pulse, Fun X, Extra 260, and Showtime Mini) You wont be dissapointed
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 05:08 PM
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If its anything like the latest eflite planes (Mini Pulse, Fun X, Extra 260, and Showtime Mini) You wont be dissapointed
Having had experience with a couple of those I'll agree with 800mZero. Eflites offerings have improved significantly in the last year.

Yup, definitely a possibility for floats.
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 05:17 PM
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Yes there are extras. but...

My Super Cub has another 2" on WS, I'm running an 8 cell NiMh, is one SOLID block of foam(pretty much) and still only comes in at 25oz AUW. And yes, that's heavy for a parkflyer.

There's something pretty heavy in there. If it's not the cloth covered seats, then what?

Don't get me wrong! It's a beautiful scale plane!

Rod
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 09:49 PM
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Duane Cole is looking down from his cloud at this aircraft and grinning ear to ear. It is looks like beautiful aircraft. I will have to get a few, one for me, my father, and one for a back up. I can't want to do some "energy management aerobatics. If the wingtips were capped it would be just like my Swick Taylorcraft I built from Model Airplane News plans back in the 90's...except for all the time I put into it. (6 months off and on)
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 09:52 PM
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Anyone notice it's missing the tail wheel in the inflight shots?
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 09:58 PM
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Yup, definitely a possibility for floats.
Do you think GWS floats will be enough for this plane? Those are 20" long.
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 10:02 PM
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The tail will only be on the ground for just a little while. It is like taxiing with the brakes on. Instructor, why does it take full throttle to taxi?
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 10:09 PM
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Anyone notice it's missing the tail wheel in the inflight shots?
Looks like in the first couple of inflight shots the tailwheel is there. It is definitely missing in the rest of the pictures. By the way I really like how the Taylorcraft looks in the picture of it inverted.
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 10:20 PM
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Being a T-Craft nut I had to check this out..... clearly a clipped wing version and some liberties taken with outlines. For example, the distinctive lower fuselage curve is only barely there, and the elevator and rudder have projections forward of the hinge lines that are NOT on the full scale.

That said, it's not so much that it's not still unmistakably a T-Craft. It will be interesting to see these in the field - but not until December it says on the Horizon site.

A nearly two lb. plane is pushing it to be called a "park flyer" though. They don't call it that, I see.
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 10:37 PM
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Do you think GWS floats will be enough for this plane? Those are 20" long.
If you use the formula that the late Chuck Cunningham published in RCM many years ago, you need to have a float length of approximately 75% to 80% of the measurement from the back of the prop to the rudder post. I'll make an educated guess that this measurement is probably going to be somewhere around 33" based on the overall length of 36" in the specs section. So 75% of 33" is about 24" (23.75" to be exact) which means the GWS floats will be a little short. Another important item to keep in mind is that you want to locate the step of the float at, or slightly behind the center of gravity (no more than 1/2"). You also want a few inches of the float to extend in front of the prop so the plane won't nose over when you advance the throttle or if you splash down a little hard. I have used this formula for years on many kit built and scratch built floatplanes and all have performed great. No issues getting off the water at all. Here is a link to Chucks article for more info.

http://www.seminolerc.com/EZ-Float-Design.html
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Old Sep 28, 2007, 12:00 AM
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A nearly two lb. plane is pushing it to be called a "park flyer" though. They don't call it that, I see.
i agree she's getting on the big and heavy side for park flying...the first sentence in the second paragraph of the overview does refer to her as a parkflyer...her lines and the color scheme has me mesmerized...
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Old Sep 28, 2007, 08:18 AM
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Looks like in the first couple of inflight shots the tailwheel is there. It is definitely missing in the rest of the pictures. By the way I really like how the Taylorcraft looks in the picture of it inverted.

Seems like 6 out of 8 pics of the plane flying show a missing wheel. Providing I can still count these days. Whoops, I wonder if they'll fix that? All because of me. Either way, beautiful plane. I already have one on back order with the LHS.

One thing that will be a real treat is the flight times. My Mini Pulse with a 450, 10X8 prop and 2100 mah prolite routinely gave me a 20+ min flight(shame I sold all my 450's to get 480's). Now with a little luck we'll get similar numbers with a nice scale looking flyer. I'm glad I heald off (read as: I'm lazy ) buying some other planes.


NoFlyZone: The plane has nearly 4' wing span and a 3' fuse length-In your opinion-what should it's AUW be? Don't get me wrong, I think a 450 is going to be little under powered..but the plane is more for scale---it's a not a 3D aerobat.
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