Sep 24, 2007, 06:20 AM Registered User Joined Jul 2007 876 Posts Question What do the prop numbers mean? I'll see a propeller and then 9x4.7 or 8x3.8 etc. What does it all mean?
 Sep 24, 2007, 06:42 AM The Revegetator Melbourne Australia Joined Jun 2006 2,139 Posts 9X4.7 would be a prop with a diameter of 9 inches and a pitch (angle of prop blades) of 4.7. There is more info on props and pitch speed in this guide http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739069
Sep 24, 2007, 06:46 AM
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 Originally Posted by The_RattleSnake I'll see a propeller and then 9x4.7 or 8x3.8 etc. What does it all mean?

9x4.7 means its roughly 9" diameter and VERY roughly 4.7" pitch..the amount in theory it would travel forward every revolution in a totally incompressible liquid

In practice props vary widely, even if they have the same numbers stamped on them.

- the marked pitch may be completely illusory.
- they may not have the same pitch along the blade
- the blade sections can vary from prop to prop
- The blade areas do differ widely and from make to make.
- And over the actual blade span.

So although the marked stuff is a start at specifying the prop, in the end everyone scratching for top performance buys half a dozen, and tries them all to get the one that feels best.
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 Sep 24, 2007, 07:07 AM Registered User Joined Jul 2007 876 Posts Thanks for that link... So if I have understood correctly, for example, an indoor 3d foam plane would suit a bigger prop with less pitch than a smaller one with more pitch?
Sep 24, 2007, 07:09 AM
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 Originally Posted by The_RattleSnake Thanks for that link... So if I have understood correctly, for example, an indoor 3d foam plane would suit a bigger prop with less pitch than a smaller one with more pitch?
Definitely.

On the other hand, in wind you want more speed to beat upwind, and keep the model above stall in turbulence, and the ability to climb steeply is actually less of an issue, so you want it the other way around!
Sep 24, 2007, 10:27 AM
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 Originally Posted by vintage1 Sadly less than it should. 9x4.7 means its roughly 9" diameter and VERY roughly 4.7" pitch..the amount in theory it would travel forward every revolution in a totally incompressible liquid In practice props vary widely, even if they have the same numbers stamped on them. - the marked pitch may be completely illusory. - they may not have the same pitch along the blade - the blade sections can vary from prop to prop - The blade areas do differ widely and from make to make. - And over the actual blade span. - and it says nothng about how many blades there ARE. So although the marked stuff is a start at specifying the prop, in the end everyone scratching for top performance buys half a dozen, and tries them all to get the one that feels best.
As usual Vintage is on the ball:

Take a look at this collection of 8x4 props (a couple of other close enough ones in there too).

On the same motor at the same voltage, each would draw a different current, and get you different thrust at different rpm - and at a different [hypothetical, and/or actual, if one could determine it] pitch speed.
 Sep 25, 2007, 05:58 AM Registered User Joined Jul 2007 876 Posts I guess that they are cheap so the best thing to do is just buy heaps of different ones until I find something that works well and learn from that. I didn't think the same size props could be so different.
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 Originally Posted by The_RattleSnake I guess that they are cheap so the best thing to do is just buy heaps of different ones until I find something that works well and learn from that. I didn't think the same size props could be so different.
None of us did..till we tried Master Airscrew
 Sep 25, 2007, 08:16 AM Registered User Chattanooga, Tennessee, United States Joined May 2003 27,210 Posts Hi Vintage, as you know I've found the MAS Electric Only series to be hopelessy inefficient in converting watts into thrust, but I believe I have actually found a half-way decent MAS - admittedly a very small sample but I just tried the 7x3 and 8x4 MAS G/F Series props (using the same Justgofly 450TH 12-magnet (1700Kv) motor). They take a lot of balancing, but after that they do run very smoothly and generate decent thrust - the 7x3 G/F drew more than a 7x3.5 GWS HD, but also produced more at only marginally lower "efficiency" (774g @ 4.3g/W v. 707g @ 4.71g/W). Pitch speed is moot since the GWS HD might only be 7x2.5. Comparison of the 8x4 G/F (837g @ 4.76g/W) versus 8x4 GWS HD (852g @ 5.01g/W) and 8x4 Graupner Slim Prop (844g @ 4.85g/W) surprised me in how similar they all were. Cheers, Phil