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Old Nov 20, 2002, 07:20 AM
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Any information about the ORGANIC?

Hi all.


I'm looking for some information about the ORGANIC. It's a V tail sailplane made somewhere in eastern Europe.

It's designed without motor installation but there's a conversion kit to install something like a 600.

Thanks for help,


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Old Nov 20, 2002, 07:47 AM
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Re; Organic

I have the 2-meter glider version--Great plane!

They are made or distributed by "FVK" in Europe. Apparently FVK is being split up or sold or something as posted somewhere on this board in the past few weeks. Do a search on Ezone for more info. At any rate they were hard to get before and I imagine harder to get now.

They are (were?) sold in the US by Northeast Sailplanes and Aero Model.

Try these:

nesail.com/organic.html

and

aero-model.com/planes/fvk/index.htm

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Old Nov 20, 2002, 08:02 AM
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This is FVK's own website (in English):

http://www.fvk.de/

I was assured that all models shown on the website are readily available (though there is a waiting list for some of them, the Mini Graphite in particular).
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Old Nov 20, 2002, 01:56 PM
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The Organic is available in several different versions, both glider and electric as well as differing wing chords and spans. I have the 2.5m version with a Hacker B40-8L + 4.4:1 gearbox, on 8 cells and a 14 x 10 prop, it will just about climb vertically. It's a superb soarer and is a real treat to fly once you have it sorted out.

They are made in the Ukraine and are sold under the FVK name in Europe. Not cheap, but a superb model for the money!
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Old Nov 20, 2002, 06:32 PM
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The real source

Look here:
Vladimir's Model,maker of the Graphite, Organic....

Contact info:

Victoria Gavrilko,sales@airplane-model.com Sales manager of "Vladimir's Model"

I believe she is in Switzerland.
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Old Nov 20, 2002, 07:17 PM
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It's a superb soarer and is a real treat to fly once you have it sorted out.

Hi Gordon

Is the sorting process different to any other glider? Do you CG elevator/crow mix and the like?

dave

I am supposedly picking one of these up from Europe next week bought by mail order from Vlad's models. My understanding is that one of the two ex partners of FVK is now working or in partnership with Vlad's models.

Its interesting to note that the old FVK site is now listing several new models including large gliders, a molded pylon racer and a 3D plane. Whether distribution will be as good as in the past we shall have to see.
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Old Nov 22, 2002, 08:21 AM
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David - the 'sorting' is mainly getting the various throws and mixes so that the model flies as you might wish. It's easy enough to get it roughly right and have some good flights with the model, but the 'fine' tuning can take a bit longer.

The two 'problems' I have encountered (minor really) are that of being able to move the CG back far enough - I have all my gear as far back as possible and I would like to try CG a little further aft still. Second problem could be me, could be the model, but frequently when turning, it seems to yaw the tail round quite violently on occasion. I'm still playing with aileron/rudder mix to try and get this sorted.

Please don't get me wrong - this is a great model to fly and I'm sure you won't regret buying it for a moment. I'm sure any other similar glider would take me as long to get fine tuned also!
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Old Nov 22, 2002, 08:47 PM
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I would agree with Gordon. I didn't mount my receiver and servos far enough aft to be able to place the battery where I'd like. If I had it to do again, I'd make a removable tray for the servos and put them into the tail aft of the wing saddle.

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Old Nov 24, 2002, 06:18 AM
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Ben - FWIW I have my servos mounted IN the tail halves. Receiver battery is at rear of wing opening, with receiver behind that. I think I may be able to shift the receiver battery a bit further aft if I can squeeze the receiver further down the tail boom. I'm going to give this a try soon, because I'd REALLY like to try the model on 10 cells.
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Old Nov 24, 2002, 08:17 AM
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I'm flying mine with a Hacker B40-6L/4.4:1, 13x11 prop, 7 N-1000SCR cells pulling 42A.

What motor are you running?

-Ben
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Old Nov 25, 2002, 04:09 AM
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Ben - I assume that last question was directed toward me?

Anyway - Hacker B40-8L + 4.4:1, 8 x CP1700, 14 x 10 RFM prop. Current draw is almost dead-on 50 Amps.
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Old Nov 25, 2002, 03:52 PM
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I have two 100" electric Organics coming in. FVK no longer sells these products. The 100" is a perfect 7=cell competiton sailplne.
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Old Nov 25, 2002, 06:52 PM
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Yeah, a friend of mine just got one and it is about the perfect compromise for 7 cell competition. Very nice!

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Old Dec 04, 2002, 05:36 PM
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Questions re Organic build

Hmm

Just returned from Europe with Organic 2.5E. Indeed a quality kit despite total lack of instructions. Carbon fibre everywhere. Can't imagine a stronger built up plane. Hinges appear to be wire inside a tube, looks very reliable. Putting in a Hacker B40 8L on 8 x cp1700. Will probably be too much wing area for Australian 7 cell competition, but won't worry me.

Mine has the servo cutouts in the tail. However nothing bigger than a Hitec 81 will fit there, but that should be adequate for the weight. Also planning to use the newish Hitec wing servos for the ailerons and flaps. Should be a good fit.

The included accessory bag has two pieces of plastic that look like two pronged forks with the head at an angle to the handle. Anyone know what these are? I haven't seen them in any previous kit.

I read in other posts that crow is not necessary the flaps do a good enough job on their own. Is that still the opinion?

How much rudder is mixed in with the aileron?

This is my first 3 part wing plane, should thewing tips be taped on for each flight or just use the supplied tip joiner?
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Old Dec 05, 2002, 03:53 AM
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Re: Questions re Organic build

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The included accessory bag has two pieces of plastic that look like two pronged forks with the head at an angle to the handle. Anyone know what these are? I
I suspect these to be the V-tail control horns
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