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Old Aug 17, 2007, 06:11 AM
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What Are the Best 200 Watt 3D Flyers?

I have several Hacker A20-20s, and am looking for the best flying planes to put them in.

I have flown the following:

Fliton Extra 330 Mini
Fliton Edge 540 Mini
Hacker Zoom
Copperhead Stiffy
Airfoilz Edge
Stevens Aero Stella
MM Eva with various scratch built wings
Fliton Inspire Mini
Hyperion 3DeLight


The Fliton Extra and Edge are by far my favorites. Is there anything else in this size that should be looked at? I am not too partial to foamies.
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Old Aug 17, 2007, 08:39 AM
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Do you want to fly precision 3D or hoverfest 3D? If you want the former, then I'd say that the Inspire Mini is your best bet. However, SA Stella is an awesome performe, a class of its own. It's lighter and has more wing area. harriers are super stable, though you get a fair ammount of pitch coupling in KE.
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Old Aug 17, 2007, 09:35 AM
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I am probably more towards the precision 3D. I like the plane to fly, but I also like high alpha knife edges, harriering, blenders, waterfalls, knife edge spins etc. The Inspire was okay, but not better enough to make me want to put up with its butt-ugliness.

Can you think of any worth consideration that are not on the list?
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Old Aug 17, 2007, 09:42 AM
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Then go for the Fliton 330 mini. It's a great plane as long as you do the mods suggested to strengthen the LG plate. The 260 mini is worth a look also, more durable, but a couple of oz heavier. empty weight is 15 oz.
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Old Aug 17, 2007, 09:48 AM
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Then go for the Fliton 330 mini. It's a great plane as long as you do the mods suggested to strengthen the LG plate. The 260 mini is worth a look also, more durable, but a couple of oz heavier. empty weight is 15 oz.
Yeah, I am on my second Extra 330 Mini and 2 more in the box. I obviously like the plane. Just trying to see if I was missing anything.
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Old Aug 17, 2007, 09:50 AM
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lol, looks aside, nothing is going to beat a foamie or a profile for 3D fun. Currently the 10e market is not the "hot" one. Most models are coming out for the 25e-40e sizes weighing in from 30-50 oz.
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Old Aug 17, 2007, 09:53 AM
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I do have a 3D SHP and a Yak, both excellent planes. I like the little guys for getting out for a quick flight.
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Old Aug 17, 2007, 10:54 AM
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The Seagull X-ray is an awesome flyer if you can tolerate the transparency/orientation issues. I have one setup with a 20/20L running on 1320 prolites and it has plenty of thrust.
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Old Aug 17, 2007, 11:07 AM
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Then you really should look at the Inspire Mini. at flitonstore.com, they now have the white version (in limited edition) which looks a heckalot better .
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Old Aug 17, 2007, 12:29 PM
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Inspire mini would be my choice. JMO, but i think it looks the nuts!
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Old Aug 17, 2007, 12:58 PM
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Never flown them but the Oxalys and Reflex offered from Hobby Lobby have great videos and would fit nicely into your power system.

Anyone have experience???

I have been playing with the GWS Formosa and really like this plane once it has been stiffened with CF. Been doing a variety of mods to make it more 3D friendly.

Made a mid wing with large depron surfaces from a Charger RC. It flew really nicely, got rid of much of the orig's KE coupling, flew slowly yet could penetrate the wind if needed. Flew much truer then the flat foamies I have had. Downside was the fuse side area is too small for good low speed KE. No problem at higher speeds as in pattern stuff. Did a 12' manuever 10' off the ground so it needs a rebuild.

Will use the wings and tail in a profile fuse that will have double the side area. At 9oz wing loading, the Formosa wing is absolutely docile and the airfoiled stab is a bonus.

In the works is another mid wing Formosa but with enlarged surfaces to better mimic the 3D/Pattern planes mentioned above. Should 3D better then the orig but retain the speed for sport pattern. planform will be very similar to the Hyperion Katana 10e and Eflite Tribute FX from which I drew inspiration.

Airframe with a 200watt motor minus lipo is targeted at 13 to 14oz so inflight weights will be 17.5 to 19oz given my 3S packs (1500 to 2200mah packs). Significantly lighter then the balsa ARF's of similar size, yet as rigid. Hope to have it completed and in the air before the end of Aug.

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Old Aug 17, 2007, 02:45 PM
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Oxylas would work well too
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 08:58 AM
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I have a Hacker A20-20l in a Lil Banchee and it's awesome. Any maneuver you can do, it will do. I always take mine to the field no matter what else goes. Weigh about 14-15 oz. with a TP1320.


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Old Aug 19, 2007, 09:21 AM
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Better 3D Plane

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Then you really should look at the Inspire Mini. at flitonstore.com, they now have the white version (in limited edition) which looks a heckalot better .

Hey BoneDoc, I've have the Fliton Extra Mini and loves the way it flies.
Is the IM better in general, or 3D Or both?

I just bought a E-Flite 260 Extra on an impulse and wish I had waited
to get another Fliton. Should I wait for the Fliton 260 Extra ?

Thanks!

RC4
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 07:30 AM
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RC4,

I haven't flown either, but just from following the thread, and from the raw numbers, the IM should be better in general. It weighs the same, has at least 80 squares more wing area, and a larger side area as well. On top of that, it has a removable wing, and (I think, but I'm not sure) better LG mount.

I'm not sure when batch #2 will be out from the 260 Extra, but you can email / call Fliton and I'm sure they'll be happy to help .
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