E-Sky Lama V4 Resource Thread - Parts, Mods., Tuning, Upgrades, Etc. - Page 2

helliefan · Aug 15, 2007, 03:37 PM

I have mode 1, speed on right side. Is that correct for me? I'm from Norway.

-helliefan

furai · Aug 15, 2007, 03:40 PM

ah, sorry, I have no idea what is normally used in Norway...

blkdog7 · Aug 15, 2007, 07:23 PM

Just got my indestructible skids and put them on. They are PERFECT in every way. I really wish I didn't pay $20 total for them. It was a total rip-off. Oh, well, they really are nice and I got them in White!

Check them out:

cmulder · Aug 15, 2007, 08:08 PM

Another day of tweaking to cure tbe and this is what i found;
first i mounted heli padels from a shogun/ zoom 400 instead of the weights on the flybar.
Result ; worse tbe.
That got me thinking so if heavier makes it worse what about lighter?
So unscrewed the plastick wing part only leaving the metal bit wich is about half the weight of the stock weights.
And now my heli flies a lot more stable then with the stock weights.
This is still using stock blades mounting extreme blades i stil have tbe.

update; i have replaced the paddle weights with wheel collars wich are i guess 1/3 less weight then the paddel weights and the lama is still stable.
When you try this you have to keep in might that becouse of less air resistance of the top rotor (the wheel collars are about 1/5 size of the stock weights)
You need to adjust the gain on your 4 in 1 becouse the top head motor has less air resistance to overcome and the rpm goes up resulting in the tail turning in flight.
It will not be too mutch ; do a test flight and you see.

In theory this mod since it reduces weight a bit AND less work for the top motor it should result in longer flight times.
I ave not timed a bevore / after so i don't know for shure yet.

cmulder · Aug 15, 2007, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furai

ah, sorry, I have no idea what is normally used in Norway...

In mainland europe most people fly mode one (trottle on right) why don;t you look up your local model flying club and ask them?

blkdog7 · Aug 15, 2007, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helliefan

I have mode 1, speed on right side. Is that correct for me? I'm from Norway.

-helliefan

I think that is very correct for you. Mode 2 seems to be mostly a North American thing.

ranavalona · Aug 16, 2007, 04:48 AM

I have a feeling that the regional distinction between mode 1 and mode 2 is becoming blurred. Mode 1 Europe, mode 2 USA used to be standard, but today I think that mode 2 is becoming more the norm worldwide.

May be something to do with the fact that the toy "trainers" such as the Micro Mosquito and the Bladerunner - on which many people now get their introduction to heli flying, only come with left throttle.

Although I'm in UK, left throttle is "correct" for me, and I'd hate to have to change now to right throttle.

helliefan · Aug 16, 2007, 09:21 AM

http://www.xtremecx2.com/servlet/the...ng-Tape/Detail

I've got these tapes. Where should I use them on the xtreme blades? Where looks "best"?

-helliefan

ranavalona · Aug 16, 2007, 09:59 AM

This page;

http://www.miracle-mart.com/store/in...oducts_id=1383

Illustrates the main use of this tape as a tracking aid, rather than a decorative item.

Didn't find it much use myself - or maybe my blades were already tracking okay!

cnorvelle · Aug 16, 2007, 12:18 PM

When I go to www.miracle-mart.com and try and order anything I can't seem to find a "buy" or "buy now" button anywhere. I see a ton of this "Show Room Only" text. Has anyone else experienced this or am I an idiot?

helliefan · Aug 16, 2007, 12:50 PM

We are sorry to tell you that miracle-mart.com now under maintain for 1 to 2 business day

I got my xtreme blades today from that site.

-helliefan

cnorvelle · Aug 16, 2007, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helliefan

We are sorry to tell you that miracle-mart.com now under maintain for 1 to 2 business day

I got my xtreme blades today from that site.

-helliefan

I see! So nobody can buy anything right now till they finish working on the website. I never saw that announcement anywhere so I didn't know what is going on. I could travel the website with no problem, look at the helicopter etc but I found no where to buy it. I also joined as a member earlier today without a problem.....so is the website really down?

I am looking to buy the Lama V4 as my first helicopter. I have lots of experience with fixed wing aircraft, but I saw that a lot of people found the Lama's to be a great starter helli.....miracle-mart.com seems to be the cheapest place to buy but I can't seem to actually buy it there. I am thinking now about going with hobby-lobby.com since they have a great reputation. Anyone have a preference on where to buy?

blkdog7 · Aug 16, 2007, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnorvelle

When I go to www.miracle-mart.com and try and order anything I can't seem to find a "buy" or "buy now" button anywhere. I see a ton of this "Show Room Only" text. Has anyone else experienced this or am I an idiot?

I ordered parts from them too, no complaints. Give it a shot in a few days.

blkdog7 · Aug 16, 2007, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranavalona

This page;

http://www.miracle-mart.com/store/in...oducts_id=1383

Illustrates the main use of this tape as a tracking aid, rather than a decorative item.

Didn't find it much use myself - or maybe my blades were already tracking okay!

That's what that tape is for!!! Thanks for that link, sweet!

So, how do you adjust tracking afterwards??

ranavalona · Aug 16, 2007, 01:55 PM

Adjust the link between the flybar and the top rotor head. It's a trial and error method, really. Shorten it by a turn, check, and if it's worse go the other way.

I find it easier to check for out of track by spooling up and sighting the blades side on against a CRT monitor or TV. (If anyone has such stuff nowadays. It doesn't seem to work with a LCD display.)

Aug 15, 2007, 07:23 PM	#18
blkdog7 LAMA V4 & Honeybee FP FTW Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New England, USA! Posts: 206	Just got my indestructible skids and put them on. They are PERFECT in every way. I really wish I didn't pay $20 total for them. It was a total rip-off. Oh, well, they really are nice and I got them in White! Check them out: Last edited by blkdog7; Aug 15, 2007 at 07:30 PM.

Aug 15, 2007, 08:08 PM	#19
cmulder Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,739	flybar weights Another day of tweaking to cure tbe and this is what i found; first i mounted heli padels from a shogun/ zoom 400 instead of the weights on the flybar. Result ; worse tbe. That got me thinking so if heavier makes it worse what about lighter? So unscrewed the plastick wing part only leaving the metal bit wich is about half the weight of the stock weights. And now my heli flies a lot more stable then with the stock weights. This is still using stock blades mounting extreme blades i stil have tbe. update; i have replaced the paddle weights with wheel collars wich are i guess 1/3 less weight then the paddel weights and the lama is still stable. When you try this you have to keep in might that becouse of less air resistance of the top rotor (the wheel collars are about 1/5 size of the stock weights) You need to adjust the gain on your 4 in 1 becouse the top head motor has less air resistance to overcome and the rpm goes up resulting in the tail turning in flight. It will not be too mutch ; do a test flight and you see. In theory this mod since it reduces weight a bit AND less work for the top motor it should result in longer flight times. I ave not timed a bevore / after so i don't know for shure yet. Last edited by cmulder; Aug 15, 2007 at 08:55 PM. Reason: update

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Aug 15, 2007, 03:37 PM	#16
helliefan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 41	I have mode 1, speed on right side. Is that correct for me? I'm from Norway. -helliefan

Aug 15, 2007, 03:40 PM	#17
furai Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 42	ah, sorry, I have no idea what is normally used in Norway...

Aug 16, 2007, 04:48 AM	#22
ranavalona Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Yorkshire, UK Posts: 427	I have a feeling that the regional distinction between mode 1 and mode 2 is becoming blurred. Mode 1 Europe, mode 2 USA used to be standard, but today I think that mode 2 is becoming more the norm worldwide. May be something to do with the fact that the toy "trainers" such as the Micro Mosquito and the Bladerunner - on which many people now get their introduction to heli flying, only come with left throttle. Although I'm in UK, left throttle is "correct" for me, and I'd hate to have to change now to right throttle.

Aug 16, 2007, 09:21 AM	#23
helliefan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 41	http://www.xtremecx2.com/servlet/the...ng-Tape/Detail I've got these tapes. Where should I use them on the xtreme blades? Where looks "best"? -helliefan

Aug 16, 2007, 09:59 AM	#24
ranavalona Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Yorkshire, UK Posts: 427	This page; http://www.miracle-mart.com/store/in...oducts_id=1383 Illustrates the main use of this tape as a tracking aid, rather than a decorative item. Didn't find it much use myself - or maybe my blades were already tracking okay!

Aug 16, 2007, 12:18 PM	#25
cnorvelle Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Keswick, VA Posts: 16	When I go to www.miracle-mart.com and try and order anything I can't seem to find a "buy" or "buy now" button anywhere. I see a ton of this "Show Room Only" text. Has anyone else experienced this or am I an idiot?

Aug 16, 2007, 12:50 PM	#26
helliefan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 41	We are sorry to tell you that miracle-mart.com now under maintain for 1 to 2 business day I got my xtreme blades today from that site. -helliefan

Aug 16, 2007, 01:55 PM	#30
ranavalona Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Yorkshire, UK Posts: 427	Adjust the link between the flybar and the top rotor head. It's a trial and error method, really. Shorten it by a turn, check, and if it's worse go the other way. I find it easier to check for out of track by spooling up and sighting the blades side on against a CRT monitor or TV. (If anyone has such stuff nowadays. It doesn't seem to work with a LCD display.)