oh no, not another stick!

modfly · Aug 13, 2007, 10:20 PM

Yes..its SLOW STICK time...This one has been around for a while and has had many different configuratios...however the one I have in here now is the best IMO..that is if you like slow flight....I have many fast planes and sometimes I just want a slow relaxing predictable flying plane flight to escape into...this plane is the KING of slow for its size...People add brushless this and that and lipo this and that..I like this setup as I can literally fly any crappy battery I have laying around and it will fly like a champ

When I fly this thing people stop there cars and watch with there mouth open! It just seems weird that something this big could fly so slow...in a head wind I can fly it like a kite staying in one spot for a long time..it is a seriously cool plane..thanks GWS!

Edit..Plane has many hours flight time on airframe

galaxiex · Aug 14, 2007, 02:03 AM

That's pretty neat!

how did it fly w/ the stock motor etc, (assuming you flew it stock at all)

lol

If it's nice and slow stock, I may have to get one... I too, have alot of batt packs laying around. (how does that happen?

I've only been at this a little while...)

Edit; I looked at the slow V but I don't like V tails... dunno why, just don't... maybe cuz it just seems like a "cheap" 3 ch... 2.5 ch???

modfly · Aug 14, 2007, 02:36 AM

This setup is not to far from stock except the motor gearing and motor its self..this motor is a little higher impedance than stock and the gearing is a bit lower..its tuned for 3.75 amps WOT and will cruise at 2amps..The stock plane with 300 is tuned for about 5amps..Get one galaxiex..you will like it..it will become one of your standard fliers..very slow in stock trim...most people jack them up and over power them and such..best to fly it as intended...slow..I guess alot of people just don't get it or there bored and just want to change it...I say get more planes and leave this one alone! Enjoy as is

edit. I don't particularly see any advantage to a v-tail..I have one..A FB commander 2..and its a little slow to respond when the throttle is off and gliding..

PhantomII · Aug 14, 2007, 06:51 AM

I have just ordered the Slow Stick with the 400 motor from Tower. I am planning on using my GWS 720 mah 9.6v 8 cell. Will this be ok? It weighs 4.5 oz, and I have a micro rx with one micro and one nano servo. what do you think?

modfly · Aug 14, 2007, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomII

I have just ordered the Slow Stick with the 400 motor from Tower. I am planning on using my GWS 720 mah 9.6v 8 cell. Will this be ok? It weighs 4.5 oz, and I have a micro rx with one micro and one nano servo. what do you think?

Yep...that will work just fine..the stick will have some real power with that setup..the servo mounts require that both servos be matched in size is the only problem I see with your radio gear...

modfly · Aug 14, 2007, 04:01 PM

Here is some info on switching from ni-mh to lipo..and setting up Leading edge so that many different battery's can be used..With the motor I'm using I can even switch in a 3cell lipo for for some vertical 3d type flight..that is another reason I used this motor\ gear ratio..

modfly · Aug 14, 2007, 04:13 PM

this gives the SS pickup truck like hauling capability with NO prop damage on landing..even with a heavy battery..

modfly · Aug 14, 2007, 04:18 PM

Ok...this is the most simple and effective thing you can do to improve the strength of the wings..epoxy the 2 halves together rite in the center..thats it..thats all thats needed IMO.

modfly · Aug 14, 2007, 06:02 PM

I use the Red Bull engine\gearbox as its the most versatile and has a prop saver..no bent shafts either..2cell, 3cell lipo, 6cell ni-hh is what I run in this plane..7 or 8 cell packs could also be used..The GWS equivalent is a "C" ratio with a GWS-350 motor..

PhantomII · Aug 14, 2007, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modfly

Yep...that will work just fine..the stick will have some real power with that setup..the servo mounts require that both servos be matched in size is the only problem I see with your radio gear...

Cool......I will have to pull a micro servo from another plane that is not being flown right now. Thanks for the info.

galaxiex · Aug 14, 2007, 09:09 PM

Say Modfly, in the pic showing the wing epoxyed together, is that a piece of aluminum tubing on the LE?

modfly · Aug 14, 2007, 09:17 PM

yes..and it works real good..aluminum joiner and 2 fiber glass rods keep everything in order..this is a well designed plane..I just got in from flying it with the 800mah lipo..

modfly · Aug 14, 2007, 09:25 PM

In floater mode the plane will fly at walking speed with nose up..however, it is very unstable in the wind this way...so this is only good for little or no wind conditions..

modfly · Aug 14, 2007, 09:37 PM

with the heaver battery, if you do a COG check, the plane will tilt forward 45 degrees at the COG..this allows wind flying and acrobatic moves like loops and inverted flight..or what ever you can think off..yes nose heavy..you will have to adjust elevator trim for level flight.I have flown in 20mph gusts over the winter and the plane was stable..when the plane lands and is blown over then you know the wind is blowing. So the hardest part is to keep the plane from being damaged after landing!

PhantomII · Aug 17, 2007, 12:03 PM

My Slow Stick arrives today!!! I have found two hs81 servos so I should be fine!!!! The build starts!!

Aug 13, 2007, 10:20 PM	#1
modfly Achieving Air Superiority Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "K" Town..Ohio Posts: 13,095	oh no, not another stick! Yes..its SLOW STICK time...This one has been around for a while and has had many different configuratios...however the one I have in here now is the best IMO..that is if you like slow flight....I have many fast planes and sometimes I just want a slow relaxing predictable flying plane flight to escape into...this plane is the KING of slow for its size...People add brushless this and that and lipo this and that..I like this setup as I can literally fly any crappy battery I have laying around and it will fly like a champ When I fly this thing people stop there cars and watch with there mouth open! It just seems weird that something this big could fly so slow...in a head wind I can fly it like a kite staying in one spot for a long time..it is a seriously cool plane..thanks GWS! Edit..Plane has many hours flight time on airframe Attached Thumbnails currently running a 6cell ni-mh pack @4.5oz from a sky fly..but also can run a 800mah 2cell @ 1.54oz for super slow flight.. 56.2 KB · Views: 464 this plane has about 350 flights and the airframe is still original..Went through about 5 motors so far...my flights average 18minutes so 105 hours flight time on this airframe.. 49.5 KB · Views: 305 $Name: engine.jpg Views: 290 Size: 40.2 KB Description: 370 motor with 4.5-1 ratio with prop saver, GWS 11.47\11.80 SF prop..This is from a Great Planes Red Bull profile plane..The motor casing is connected to aluminum stick and is also grounded to negative source battery..eliminates all motor noise..$ 370 motor with 4.5-1 ratio with prop saver, GWS 11.47\11.80 SF prop..This is from a Great Planes Red Bull profile plane..The motor casing is connected to aluminum stick and is also grounded to negative source battery..eliminates all motor noise.. 40.2 KB · Views: 290 oops...that tail wheel is about rolled out.. 46.6 KB · Views: 263 New Futaba micro rx setup with high quality servos..5 amp Blue Arrow ESC..This is the 4th radio setup and the lightest! 46.1 KB · Views: 274 This plane will fly walking speed with the 800mah 2cell lipo..lands like a feather..will fly in a very small space.. 49.6 KB · Views: 276 45.9 KB · Views: 238 radio gear bottom view.. 69.0 KB · Views: 195 My ESC has been modified with an external 7805 5v regulator..uses the frame as a heat sink plus connects source negative voltage to aluminum stick..the motor frame is also electrically connected to the stick..this mod Allows this plane to fly to a speck! 53.1 KB · Views: 192 5 amp Blue Arrow ESC..mounted so its heat sink is flush to the SS frame for further cooling.. 40.3 KB · Views: 158 this keeps the antenna wire from touching the stick..every little bit helps for MAX range..also the 2 collars are for final adjustment of tail feathers.. 49.9 KB · Views: 287 Last edited by modfly; Feb 09, 2008 at 06:19 PM.

Aug 14, 2007, 02:03 AM	#2
galaxiex my karma ranover my dogma Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Posts: 4,244	That's pretty neat! how did it fly w/ the stock motor etc, (assuming you flew it stock at all) lol If it's nice and slow stock, I may have to get one... I too, have alot of batt packs laying around. (how does that happen? I've only been at this a little while...) Edit; I looked at the slow V but I don't like V tails... dunno why, just don't... maybe cuz it just seems like a "cheap" 3 ch... 2.5 ch??? Last edited by galaxiex; Aug 14, 2007 at 02:09 AM.

Aug 14, 2007, 02:36 AM	#3
modfly Achieving Air Superiority Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "K" Town..Ohio Posts: 13,095	This setup is not to far from stock except the motor gearing and motor its self..this motor is a little higher impedance than stock and the gearing is a bit lower..its tuned for 3.75 amps WOT and will cruise at 2amps..The stock plane with 300 is tuned for about 5amps..Get one galaxiex..you will like it..it will become one of your standard fliers..very slow in stock trim...most people jack them up and over power them and such..best to fly it as intended...slow..I guess alot of people just don't get it or there bored and just want to change it...I say get more planes and leave this one alone! Enjoy as is edit. I don't particularly see any advantage to a v-tail..I have one..A FB commander 2..and its a little slow to respond when the throttle is off and gliding.. Last edited by modfly; Aug 14, 2007 at 02:42 AM.

Aug 14, 2007, 04:01 PM	#6
modfly Achieving Air Superiority Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "K" Town..Ohio Posts: 13,095	SS Battery mount and wing LE position. Here is some info on switching from ni-mh to lipo..and setting up Leading edge so that many different battery's can be used..With the motor I'm using I can even switch in a 3cell lipo for for some vertical 3d type flight..that is another reason I used this motor\ gear ratio.. Attached Thumbnails 2 cell 800 mah lipo..mount is simply moved forward for 1.5oz lipo..this will also give the SS stock COG.. 58.1 KB · Views: 227 51.4 KB · Views: 211 6 cell 1000 mah ni-mh pack with JST adapter. 56.8 KB · Views: 164 battery mounts shown in 4.5oz ni-mh position..I use a screw to hold wing mount in postion.. 43.1 KB · Views: 165 LE to stick frame edge..150mm or 15cm.. 58.5 KB · Views: 179 15cm from LE to front edge of motor mount..This is the optimum setting and allows big battery changes by moving battery mount.. 59.4 KB · Views: 162 Last edited by modfly; Aug 14, 2007 at 09:41 PM.

Aug 14, 2007, 04:13 PM	#7
modfly Achieving Air Superiority Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "K" Town..Ohio Posts: 13,095	SS Landing gear Mod.. this gives the SS pickup truck like hauling capability with NO prop damage on landing..even with a heavy battery.. Attached Thumbnails new axle simply collard on..hex head collar fasteners hold everything in place.. 48.5 KB · Views: 231 I got tired of the plane smacking the prop on the pavement on landing when I had a heavy battery installed..axle wire is same diameter as LG wire..works excellent..have not scuffed a prop since.. 48.6 KB · Views: 213 Last edited by modfly; Aug 29, 2008 at 01:00 AM.

Aug 14, 2007, 06:51 AM	#4
PhantomII Phantom Mechanic Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Westpoint Utah Posts: 95	I have just ordered the Slow Stick with the 400 motor from Tower. I am planning on using my GWS 720 mah 9.6v 8 cell. Will this be ok? It weighs 4.5 oz, and I have a micro rx with one micro and one nano servo. what do you think?

Aug 14, 2007, 04:18 PM	#8
modfly Achieving Air Superiority Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "K" Town..Ohio Posts: 13,095	SS Wing mod Ok...this is the most simple and effective thing you can do to improve the strength of the wings..epoxy the 2 halves together rite in the center..thats it..thats all thats needed IMO. Attached Thumbnails epoxy the 2 halves together..keeps dihedral rite on and greatly strengthens wing.. 43.2 KB · Views: 220 forget tape! it does not hold good enough..this also increases load capability like for loops.. 50.6 KB · Views: 203

Aug 14, 2007, 06:02 PM	#9
modfly Achieving Air Superiority Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "K" Town..Ohio Posts: 13,095	Prop selection + GWS motor equivalent I use the Red Bull engine\gearbox as its the most versatile and has a prop saver..no bent shafts either..2cell, 3cell lipo, 6cell ni-hh is what I run in this plane..7 or 8 cell packs could also be used..The GWS equivalent is a "C" ratio with a GWS-350 motor.. Attached Thumbnails $Name: motor.jpg Views: 168 Size: 46.9 KB Description: Red Bull engine\gearbox can run on 2\3cell lipos with the correct prop for each pack..The RB prop is a 10.33 and is for 3 cells with this gearing.$ Red Bull engine\gearbox can run on 2\3cell lipos with the correct prop for each pack..The RB prop is a 10.33 and is for 3 cells with this gearing. 46.9 KB · Views: 168 11.47-for 2 cell lipo...11.80 for 6cell 7.2v 40.2 KB · Views: 147 Edge 540 profile 3D "Red Bull" from great planes..very good flying plane..can fly pretty slow too..but thats for another thread..has a very good brushed power system.. 54.3 KB · Views: 204 Last edited by modfly; Aug 14, 2007 at 06:09 PM.

Aug 14, 2007, 09:09 PM	#11
galaxiex my karma ranover my dogma Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Posts: 4,244	Say Modfly, in the pic showing the wing epoxyed together, is that a piece of aluminum tubing on the LE?

Aug 14, 2007, 09:17 PM	#12
modfly Achieving Air Superiority Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "K" Town..Ohio Posts: 13,095	yes..and it works real good..aluminum joiner and 2 fiber glass rods keep everything in order..this is a well designed plane..I just got in from flying it with the 800mah lipo..

Aug 14, 2007, 09:25 PM	#13
modfly Achieving Air Superiority Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "K" Town..Ohio Posts: 13,095	Floater mode In floater mode the plane will fly at walking speed with nose up..however, it is very unstable in the wind this way...so this is only good for little or no wind conditions.. Attached Thumbnails Floater configuration..Here the plane balances were the manual states or stock COG..the SS will fly very slow and literally float with this balance point but is no good for wind.. 58.1 KB · Views: 195 Last edited by modfly; Aug 14, 2007 at 09:38 PM.

Aug 14, 2007, 09:37 PM	#14
modfly Achieving Air Superiority Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "K" Town..Ohio Posts: 13,095	Flying the SS in wind. with the heaver battery, if you do a COG check, the plane will tilt forward 45 degrees at the COG..this allows wind flying and acrobatic moves like loops and inverted flight..or what ever you can think off..yes nose heavy..you will have to adjust elevator trim for level flight.I have flown in 20mph gusts over the winter and the plane was stable..when the plane lands and is blown over then you know the wind is blowing. So the hardest part is to keep the plane from being damaged after landing! Attached Thumbnails with the 4.5 oz battery and mount moved back, plane is ready for wind flying or no wind..It just wont be as slow..this also makes the plane faster and able to do some acrobatic moves like inverted flight and loops.. 56.2 KB · Views: 215

Aug 17, 2007, 12:03 PM	#15
PhantomII Phantom Mechanic Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Westpoint Utah Posts: 95	My Slow Stick arrives today!!! I have found two hs81 servos so I should be fine!!!! The build starts!!

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