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Old Aug 09, 2008, 09:52 PM
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Yeah, I had been doing that but you can't just putt around slowly. You really have to give it some throttle so the elevator will put the rudder in the water which was my initial misunderstanding. I thought the rudder would work at a slow speed but not enough was in the watter to counteract the wind or current.
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 11:27 PM
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I think I'm going to extend the water rudder a bit. A quarter inch should work just fine especially if the front of the rudder is relieved for shedding debris.

I had a ball with my SW this weekend at the Colorado River. Took a trip down river to a large sandbar and used that for the afternoon flight ops. The river is a good quarter mile across at that point, there was hardly any wind, air temp at 110 degrees, water temps at mid-seventies. Get out, dry hands, fly, land, get back into river. Repeat.

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Old Aug 12, 2008, 05:09 AM
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Mark,

Extending the rudder won't help. I did that on mine. It extends below the hull about 3/4 inch and a pivot bolt allows it to kick-up if it contacts an obstruction, or for flying off grass. I still find I have to increase my taxi speed to get steering control in the water. As taxi speed increases, the tail and rudder are forced deeper into the water and the original rudder will provide good steering.

I also found that putting small plastic tabs sticking out of the bottoms of the wing tip floats helps level the plane as it gains speed. The tabs are clear plastic from a blister package. They are 3/8 inch wide and glued into the floats angled rearward at approximately a 45 degree angle so that about one inch sticks out of the float. They act as planers forcing the low wing tip upward.
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 09:34 AM
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Anyone else having a hard time keeping their Seawind clean? The white on mine attracts dirt from everywhere. Not to mention the couple of times its been in the water it now has the realistic water ring around it.
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 10:11 AM
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I also found that putting small plastic tabs sticking out of the bottoms of the wing tip floats helps level the plane as it gains speed. The tabs are clear plastic from a blister package. They are 3/8 inch wide and glued into the floats angled rearward at approximately a 45 degree angle so that about one inch sticks out of the float. They act as planers forcing the low wing tip upward.
Thanks for the 411, Jim. I did the wingtip tabs a while back and it works a treat. You can't see them but they sure do work! I cut mine from the plastic tray you get with an Air Hogs micro.

Now to build the big 71" Great Planes Seawind with a planned 1500 watt system. I saw one powered with a .90 of some persuasion at a float fly last year and fell in love.


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Old Aug 12, 2008, 10:46 AM
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On my last flight, my throttle was slow to respond to inputs (Futaba 9CAP). While taxi-ing, I shut the throttle down, but the motor did not repsond until about 4 seconds later. All other subchannels (rudder, etc) worked fine, so I don't think I got hit from another radio or other rf generator. After reading this thread, it seems that perhaps the ESC is overheating.

Any comments on this phenomenon, folks?

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Old Aug 12, 2008, 04:35 PM
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Anyone else having a hard time keeping their Seawind clean? The white on mine attracts dirt from everywhere. Not to mention the couple of times its been in the water it now has the realistic water ring around it.
Yeah they've used a CHEAP emulsion paint mine is 'sticky' also
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 05:02 PM
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Mark,

I have a friend who has the big one flying on electric from the water. Its an impressive sight. The electric system has a very nice sound compared to the gas powered ones. You're going to really like it.

Jim
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 05:06 PM
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yup

I've got polycrylic and spackle on some of this plane now and foresee some primer and a repaint this winter



Got 2 g-force 1300's for cheap and will give some stats or specs if anyone is interested. They are probably close to an ounce heavier than the tp 1320's ,but higher discharge and less than half the price.
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 11:06 PM
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Thanks for the 411, Jim. I did the wingtip tabs a while back and it works a treat. You can't see them but they sure do work! I cut mine from the plastic tray you get with an Air Hogs micro.

Now to build the big 71" Great Planes Seawind with a planned 1500 watt system. I saw one powered with a .90 of some persuasion at a float fly last year and fell in love.


mw
Be aware that you may have a lot of work to do to improve the hull of the big GP SW. Several people have commented that the quality of the FG hull is lacking. Lots of pinholes and fragile unless reinforced with more glass.
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 11:32 PM
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Here's my E-powered GP Seawind article http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=660997 . If you watch the videos you can see that the takeoffs are interesting. I haven't been able to try our full up elevator takeoff process on the big one, but it might work.
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Old Aug 15, 2008, 06:44 AM
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Here's a video of Vern's Glow Seawind.
He talks about the hull weakness and what he did.
Seawind & Vern Leets (3 min 54 sec)
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Old Aug 15, 2008, 04:07 PM
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Those are so great to watch

I flew my GP little one with another guy in OH and he is running
a polyquest 4s 3700 and a 3s 3700 in series for 7s and it was flying when the waves were too large for everyone else, it was more than impressive.
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Old Aug 16, 2008, 02:07 PM
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Well I have done this for my other planes so I felt I was neglecting my Seawind. I want quite as brave with the Seawind on getting close to the camera. Mainly because I was next to the camera and its a little different with the plane coming at you. SO enjoy what little I got.

GP Seawind EP (4 min 33 sec)
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Old Aug 17, 2008, 05:13 AM
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Repairing wing-peg

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What do you think about SeaWinds wing attachment? Something wrong with the design!?
In a tight turn (bank) before landing the wing come loose!? Carbon wing peg loosen and also the wing mont. The wing fixed construction on SeaWind is not so wery strong, or..?
Repairing wing-peg:
If I known SeaWinds weak (bad) construction I should done this reinforcement before first flight!
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