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Old Jun 18, 2009, 12:16 PM
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Wow Paddy!! Backwards flight, nice one! Great isn't it.
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 12:32 PM
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Ain't it... I was almost doing hurricanes but upright skids out rather than inverted skids in like yours

Oh & backwards flight makes far better blade noise than foward flight although i don't know why??
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 12:46 PM
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Tail blade vortexes hitting the main ones, that's what I reckon anyway. And inverted flight sounds much better than upright. Even forward flight inverted sounds different, and then there's backwards inverted flight... The best sounds a heli can make .
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 12:51 PM
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he he, one day on the Logo. Good theaory mate
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 06:00 PM
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Piro circuits are easier because you are taking your key from an orientation you are familiar with. The more ways you can do an non piro circuit the more keys you have.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 03:17 PM
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After 27 total flights with my beam, 12 in 3D I had a bad crash... ;/
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 04:02 AM
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Piro circuits are easier because you are taking your key from an orientation you are familiar with. The more ways you can do an non piro circuit the more keys you have.
Say that one more time please? Do you think it is easier to do it (backward flight) with or without pirouettes?

I thought that orientation in piros are far more complex as you need to correct it all over the place - in all orientations rather than one at the time...

Also, when you say piro (p4ddy) - what do you mean: swing tail around until it gets to the 'known' position and do something about it - or go slowly around and correct it all the way through? I'm always confused what do people mean by piros... O: )
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 04:31 AM
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You can hold the cyclic in a certain way that it goes in a certain direction and keep it there. If your key is forward flight then the next time the nose faces direction of the piro circuit you apply cyclic changes to control direction. In my case i can fly forward, backwards and funnels. So I have manykey points to induce a directional change.
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 04:36 AM
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I can do piro hurricanes now,they are not perfect but I HAVE TO corect the cyclic almost every 90 degres... It isn't like on the sim,at least for me.
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 04:40 AM
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Well when i do a piro circle (can probs do a circuit actually?) i have the piro at a constant rate with no hesitation. To start the circle i'll either give a foward input or backwards to get it moving. Once it's moving i will give cyclic input which is like a very small stir of the stick. Occasionaly i need to make the input a little exagerated to make the heli go in the intended direction but that input is regardless of orientation. It may be back or foward, may be sideways or at nose 5 0'clock.
Now that i'm doing backwards flight doing the piro has become even easier. As what Gino is saying, if you can fly foward & backwards circuits it's easier, if you can do a pie dish or funnel it's then childs play.

So yes i correct all the way through constantly driving the model fowards & not at one given point. I have to add that i could do a pie dish, backwards 8's & piro circles ok on the sim & only now am i having the balls to do it for real. It's so great when sim memory kicks in.
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 04:45 AM
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It's harder to use just one point for foward motion.
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 05:07 AM
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I cant do a piro circle. I hate it. I can't see it yet. On the sim, I just crash & crash.
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 11:06 AM
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I do it both ways- on fast piros it's easier to use a "key" direction for inputs, but on slow ones, I'll fly it at all angles. I don't really have a formula for it; I just do whatever's comfortable at the time.
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 07:15 PM
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Flew today. Got my new 500XH motor. I dropped it in with a 13T pinion. Flights were good. No bogging and the unwanted dips when turning over. My piro flips were more confident. Although I could only manage those with my EZ Fly lipo. The RCModelPart lipos weren't as authoritative. But even with those relatively weak lipos the motor wasn't bogging. Flips and rolls were stationary. Nice thing is head speed isn't crazy fast. The motor still is 3500kv. Good day. Good day
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 07:44 PM
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Flew 2 packs today but I'm having overheating issues. On my 2nd flight, it went into "thermal" shutdown so I brought it in. I'm grounded until I get a BEC.
I'm thinking on getting this BEC;http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...TURNIGY_5-7.5A
Anyone if it's good for the stock 25A ESC on the Blade 400? Thanks!
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