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Old Jun 06, 2009, 03:28 AM
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Yup, it's still a warm 28ºC without the sun.
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Old Jun 06, 2009, 04:02 AM
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mmm, I would take this over the T-Rex 500 or the protos anyday Im having flybarless withdrawls!! I miss my logo 10 Vbar that I sold a long while back.. Stupid mistake I made to sell it!!! haha!!
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Old Jun 06, 2009, 04:51 AM
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Yes i did.
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Here's 2 vids of me & Gav flying this evening. My loops are very boggy as i'm still working on getting the correct collective management (430X 13T) 2 of them were good. This is my 1st video of me looping & proper inverted hovering.
Very nice! (belated) Congratulations...

Nice loops! I would have given you a small warning here if I didn't know what you had done (piros and piro circuits) - practice hovering/flying in all orientations. I had couple of mishaps in loops when loop didn't end up nice and straight and tail swang to the left and I've lost orientation...

. . .

Anyway - when you said you were hovering inverted - I was so cuirous to find out is it tail or nose in. I'm nose in inverted-hovering-first guy too . Since you're hovering inverted so nicely, but ending loops too low - here is something you can try: while inverted (hovering) - and when you have steadied it - give a bit more negative to gain altitude before bailing out. Repeat it. Now - when doing a loop - deliberately stop (for a brief second) loop at the top and give a bit more negative. After that - just go through the loop and at the top give more negative. That's all. Last, and the scariest thing is - try to hover inverted and just before bailing out - give negative and bail through the loop (instead pushing elevator forward, pull it to yourself as if you're doing a loop). Just flip back. It looks so cool - but I always have to concentrate what I am going to do - if not my fingers are just going to do what they are normally doing!

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When are we going to make that FF? I am so eager to see all that flying in person! (and Logo, too, of course!)
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Old Jun 06, 2009, 02:38 PM
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Yea that's the plan, I find it awquard trying to find when the neg pitch bites & end up not giving any neg & so it drops out the loop fast & low. I need to make a real effort to make a deliberatly exagerated neg input.
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Old Jun 06, 2009, 03:23 PM
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i hovered a pack today just to see if i could fly in 20+ mph winds, its possible just not very fun
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Old Jun 06, 2009, 04:25 PM
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i hovered a pack today just to see if i could fly in 20+ mph winds, its possible just not very fun


Hmm?? You said earlier that thaty's normal there & you fly in it all the time??

I assume now you were refering to the 10mph quoted in the weather chart i posted & not the 22-27mph gusts. Thing is when it says 22-27mph gusts it means constant The gusts are relentless & so the 10mph is irelivent. Also ignore the 22 bit as it will allways be the max gust.
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Old Jun 06, 2009, 04:29 PM
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Just to ad, i did once try to fly in 35-55mph winds with the 450 & although it would probably fly in very capable hands i didn't try. I got it off the ground into a very bumpy hover. Most of that hover was actually trying to land without slamming it into the ground.

I'll refrase, it'll fly WITH the wind but not into the wind
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Old Jun 06, 2009, 04:43 PM
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Speed of wind, as depicted in forecast, means... very little. Sometimes they measure it to 30-40mph (20mph with gusts) and it is perfectly flyable (you need to fight the wind one side and it just takes it while going on the other); while sometimes 15-20mph can be very unpleasant - with lots of turbulences making heli bobbing up and down and acting very erratically.

For example: with 'good' wind (to, lets say left side) - trying to land you will see heli with blades inclined towards wind and there won't be a problem touching the ground relatively easy. With 'bad' wind - it would jump up and down (and to side from time to time) and the moment you thought you got it - it would jump again in the the air and then suddenly drop back to the ground...
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Old Jun 06, 2009, 04:52 PM
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All wind is BAD wind IMO Apart from bum wind, that good wind because it's funny wind LOL
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Old Jun 07, 2009, 03:31 AM
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funny wind
Nicely put Let's categorise winds:

no wind (hover and/or fly inverted lower-ish)
bad wind (puts you off flying)
good wind (pushes your heli a bit to side, but doesn't affect flying significantly)
funny wind (lets you doing huge loops/stall turns to the wind, makes funny rolls when coming from the side of heli)
freezing wind (makes your fingers froze so you lose feeling in them)
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Old Jun 07, 2009, 05:56 AM
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clicky— there is probably a correlation between the types of wind you name and:

1) thinking about flying (no wind or little wind)
2) arriving at the flying field (little or no wind)
3) taking out a helicopter and setting it up (calm to light wind: 'it's not so bad...')
4) plugging in flight battery (increasing wind with gusts: 'okaaay.....')
5) spinning it up (moderate wind, increasing gusts: 'wouldn't you know it?')
6) lifting off (gale: 'sh•t!')
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Old Jun 07, 2009, 06:26 AM
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Breaking Wind: You run away!
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Old Jun 07, 2009, 08:58 AM
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@zen: Definitively! It's so accurate...

@Gino: Breaking wind: everyone else runs away!
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Old Jun 07, 2009, 11:50 AM
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Here's one of my 450 flights today. Totally gutted as no sound was recorded. With good collective management my 430X will do 2 loops in a row. Unfortunaley that was after the wife stopped recording. I also managed a side on loop which made me shake a little. I had the Logo with me but was having so much fun with the 450, i have a new found love for it LOL. The bright sky was getting a bit much & so i stopped before flying the Logo. I reckon i'm going to need some flying sun glasses. Once again sorry for the silent video.

More inverted (2 min 52 sec)
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Old Jun 07, 2009, 01:31 PM
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Own Trex noises, hahahaha! Nice flying mate as always! Some sweet inverted .

You need sunglasses mate, even cloudy skys can be the brightest, which we get quite a bit here hey! Lol...

I find side on loops easiest as you can see the circle perfect. Flips I don't find so easy side on as it's hard to see where the tail is IMO, can be a bit messy if it's not lined up.

I had two great flights this morning. Felt that the cyclic could be more powerful with my Dragonus, I installed a 220mm flybar from my Falcon 3D 20mm more than stock, should make it more stable and increase cyclic. Can't wait until I try it out, hopefully tomorrow if weather stays nice.

If that doesn't help next up is lighter paddles, dunno what I'm going to use yet though .
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