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Old Aug 09, 2007, 11:40 AM
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This is a much shrunk version of my latest effort based on one of my favorite planes. I'm working on an origional plane design though before I release The design in general.
Well I've finished my new Slipstream design and am going to flight test it this weekend. If all goes well I'll Start applying my Stars-N-Stripes to it next week. If nothing goes wrong the Stars-N-Stipes will be ready for release next week. No I'm not that fast at designing planes I started this weeks ago it's just this thread that motivated me to get it finished.
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Old Aug 09, 2007, 12:33 PM
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Critterhunter is that a profile or EDF build you are applying the 183 to?

Kdahlhuas what size are you printing that Birddog to? Looks like a sweet pattern plane.
I'll be just profiling it (with a 2" thick fuse) like I did with the P51, and plan to run a pusher prop setup and not an EDF. It's going to be tricky to get a prop to clear the verticle stab boom but I can always notch that if needed. Plus, I'm planning on a high k/v of around 3000, so the prop should be around 4.5" long or so. If and when I ever do build my first EDF setup, I think this will be the perfect platform to strap it on.

Kdahlhuas, nice build!
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Old Aug 09, 2007, 03:14 PM
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What glue are you guys using to keep the paper on?
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Old Aug 09, 2007, 03:21 PM
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Kram,

The only one that works for me is 3M 77 Spray Glue.

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Old Aug 09, 2007, 03:34 PM
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Do not use any other. I've tried several it is the only one that seams to work well

Spray both foam and paper, let sit a few seconds to start to get tacky and the bond will be much stronger than just spraying and sticking.

I also tend to use clear packing tape on the leading edges although that will start to show as the inks start to fade.
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Old Aug 09, 2007, 03:37 PM
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I"ll strongly second MDP's statement. Anything else I've tried as well has failed miserably.
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Old Aug 09, 2007, 03:39 PM
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Thanks to you all
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Old Aug 10, 2007, 09:10 AM
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I printed out the Avenger on white Tyvek with a 36 inch span. Will let you know how it goes. I may bond it to 6mm Depron or fanfold. Sure would love a Dauntless if anyone has one. Thanks for the prints. Stringfly <>+++++
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Old Aug 10, 2007, 11:15 AM
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How did you print onto tyvek? I thought it is like fabric?
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Old Aug 10, 2007, 12:22 PM
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tyvek

We use a stiffer tyvek at work for durable posters. Big roll, can print up to 36 inches wide. Stuff is almost indestructable !!!. Send me a file and I'll print it for ya..........
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Old Aug 10, 2007, 12:51 PM
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Cool sounds like the right thing to use. I think you might be on to something. Let me see what I can come up with, what format do you need it in?
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Old Aug 10, 2007, 01:04 PM
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.pdf files are the easiest to use for the graphics dept.
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Old Aug 10, 2007, 01:13 PM
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Yes, I was just given some Tyvek paper to play with a few weeks ago. I use Tyvek tape in place of clear on my foamies (found in the insulation section of home improvement stores...sticks WAY better to foam), but had never heard of Tyvek paper until he gave me some. It's not real real heavy, but just the same is more weight than Monocoat (which I can't stand using). You can't rip this paper with your fingers. Peal it apart and you'll see cobweb-like strands inside of it that look like fiberglass. The stuff sticks to foam very well with 3M spray, and just try to get paint to flake or rub off it (almost impossible!). So, I used it to cover a streamlined Stryker a few weeks back. It's much easier to work with than Monocoat (easier to avoid wrinkles), hides foam dents and dings where Monocoat will tend to highlight them when covering, and the stuff can be creased to a sharp edge like folding a piece of paper at the LE/TE of wings to really cut down on wind resistance. Just go very light and easy on your paint coats or it will start to lift from the foam due to chemicals softening the 3M spray you used under it. Normaly it'll take 3 or 4 very light coats of paint to cover the stuff without it lifting. It'll bullet proof and stiffen a bird up real nice.
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Old Aug 10, 2007, 01:56 PM
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I wonder if you took a 36" wing of fanfold and sandwiched it with Tyvek on both sides, would you even need a carbon spar anymore? Or would it make it strong enough on its own?
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Old Aug 10, 2007, 02:59 PM
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I'm going to play with the tyvek and fanfold this weekend and see what it does. I'm sure you would still need some type of spar though. Your wing would probabaly never tear off but once you get a crease in the foam it will still bend over even with the tyvek. Still bends like paper.
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