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Old Jun 05, 2001, 09:58 PM
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ECO 16 ?


Has anyone tried an ECO 16. I like my ECO 8 so much that I am considering it.

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Old Jun 06, 2001, 05:36 AM
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I think its kinda cool, But for the price of the motor and the upgrade kit, you can be on your way to building a Graupner. I decided this. I kept my ECO 8 as is and have bought a Graupner Trainer E. Its bigger than the ECO 16 and has screaming power with 24 cells. I use my ECO 8 for all around fun flying and the Graupner is my baby.
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Old Jun 06, 2001, 01:10 PM
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Does anyone have a good source for ECO 16 parts?

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Old Jun 06, 2001, 03:40 PM
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Hobby Lobby has most of the 16 parts but do not carry the tail boom nor the landing gear, and they will not pull them from the upgrade kits.

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Old Jun 07, 2001, 07:49 AM
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Try here http://www.fxaeromodels.com/newpage1.htm He does carry the tail boom, but I did not see landing gear. His prices are great for the Eco 8/16 parts that he has. It looks like he is a distributor so he should be able to get any parts that you need.
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Old Jun 24, 2001, 01:17 PM
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And then there's the LOGO 16/20 - light, strong, and great flying! The ECO 8 looks fragile enough without putting on a longer tail boom and rotor blades.

I think I'm finally getting "approval" for my LOGO 20 from one of my acquaintances who is practicing 3-D on his 60 sized glow heli. Yesterday I was demonstrating rip-snorting speed, very large loops, and consecutive rolls (some stationary) to him. It was the first time he'd seen it really fly since I installed the 300/25/A3 motor and 24 cells. He FINALLY did not tell me (as he has over and over) that I need a 60-sized glow heli to keep from being held back by performance limitations of my heli. My life is complete now

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Old Jun 25, 2001, 12:51 AM
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Hobby Lobby dose have the ECO 16 landing gear, I got a set when I was in there 6/9/2001.
Ask for HL part 3 IKA67822.
The bag is labled: #67822 Trainingslande-gestell
They sell is as a wide gear for the ECO 8. The skied are 8mm tubing by 240mm long and they are about 237mm span.
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Old Jun 25, 2001, 04:31 PM
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Glen, I think I need your motor setup
I'm starting to outgrow my current setup.

The other weekend I tried to do a Tic-Toc in my Logo (at the urging of fellow fliers). Well it TICed ok, but when I got to the TOC, the rotors had slowed way down to the point where I thought I was gonna lose it. By the time I got it right side up and rotors back up to speed, I was only about 20 feet high (I didn't start very high to begin).

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Old Jun 25, 2001, 05:05 PM
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It got better the next day. He was talking about selling one of his glow helis to get a LOGO He's been dealing with motor setup problems lately and has noticed how I just show up, top up a pack and go flying. He asked me to get together a list of equipment and prices for him to try it out. Not that I was looking to make a convert by any means, but I would have figured him to be the toughest nut to crack

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Old Jun 25, 2001, 09:43 PM
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I saw a ECO8 go down at Marcee, and was very surprized at how well the ECO came threw it.

The pilot lost orintation in gusty winds and it finally went down around 1/4 mile away in a low (16 in) corn field. I watched it hit the ground and rotors spin!

Total damage was a cracked canopy, a scratch on the MS blades form the paddle screw, bent tail boom and a link and skid came off.

I really thought it was going to be a total loss.

This really makes the choice between the ECO and voyager tuff!
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Old Jun 25, 2001, 11:12 PM
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Hi Fitz,

Although I'm not quite up to the 1900 rpm that you said I'm running my LOGO at on your web site. I am getting close these days

Yesterday I had a similar experience to yours because I was cruising around at reduced rpm and getting some experience with heading hold (yes, over 300 flights on my LOGOs and never felt I needed it enough to bother switching, hehe) while I gave my old 20 cell packs some flight time. I did this lazy 540 turn and took a bit extra time to fix its position and then when I pulled out the heli had lost rpm and was wobbling, shaking, and making ugly sounds. It almost ate up all my spare altitude too

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Old Jun 26, 2001, 12:20 AM
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Fred, if you're thinking about those two helis, it might be worth waiting for the LOGO 10 One issue with the Voyager is having to buy a motor and ESC that you might not want - one which in fact you might be better off without

I'm faced with a big parts order for my Voyager, unfortunately. If it was an ECO 8, it might be easier just to buy a whole new kit because they are pretty cheap. I can't do that with my Voyager unless I flog a motor and ESC from a new kit!

Cheers!

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