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Old Jul 12, 2007, 12:05 PM
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I can honestly say I think I'm done with glow

I have not burned a lot of glow fuel in the last few years, mainly due to family. I coach little league baseball and that with my job leaves little time to get to the field. About the only time I fly glow is during the annual Omaha ProBro that I host (July 20-22 if you want to come!)

I just finished up a glow O2-45 to fly alongside my Torque 2814T/820 powered O2. As I was in the front yard dialing in the motor my wife asks "why are you even messing with that stupid thing?" I started wondering the same thing. I went over to the open lot near my development to test it out and while it did fine, the performance was no where near as good as the E version of the plane, plus is was a little heavier. As I was flying I started feeling disappointed. I then landed and then it hit me....I forgot that I now need to clean this thing up. I was not happy with the performance and now I gotta clean it up

I'm hosting the 2007 Omaha ProBro next weekend. For the first time ever, I'm going to an event with only electric planes. I've been flying a long time, and flying electrics for about 4 years now. The transition to electrics is almost complete. I have a few glow planes I won't get rid of like my son's P51 and my Burrito, but those are the only glow planes we own now. Heck, I don't even have a motor on the Burrito right now

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Old Jul 12, 2007, 12:13 PM
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I played with engines until I got my fill of the noise and the danger of getting into the prop. Sold the last five and have not looked back. The guys at the field let me fly their glow planes sometimes. Charles
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 12:21 PM
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I was not happy with the performance and now I gotta clean it up

I'm hosting the 2007 Omaha ProBro next weekend. For the first time ever, I'm going to an event with only electric planes. I've been flying a long time, and flying electrics for about 4 years now. The transition to electrics is almost complete.

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I'm the same,I still have an old glow Uproar,but the noise & slime gets to me...I like the T-Shirt that says.....'Pass on gas'
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 12:35 PM
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I do have an 85" gasser I'm working on with a Venom 45cc engine, but I view that a bit differently. I can't afford an e setup for that, and gasoline is different than glow.

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Old Jul 12, 2007, 12:39 PM
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Send me that piece of junk, I'll find a use for it.
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 12:48 PM
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Ahhhhh... Diesel Dan, that avatar is creaping the heck out of me!!!
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 02:06 PM
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I always wondered why the put the mixture screw so close to the prop. It seems to be in a perfect place to lop off part of your finger.
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 02:46 PM
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Gasoline and electric only for me. I have finally gotten rid of my last glow engine. I have started selling some of the very many glow engines i have and have already made over $500 off old stuff I'll never use.

Gasoline is a very different beast. Usually they never require additional tuning and are generally very clean. (still loud, bud a nice deep noise instead of the whine of glow)


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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:10 PM
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I played with engines until I got my fill of the noise and the danger of getting into the prop.
An electric powered propeller presents no danger?
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:24 PM
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An electric powered propeller presents no danger?

Electric motors don't have needle valves, and they have "built-in electric starters." I think there is a lot less chance of getting bit by one, as long as you don't do something stupid.
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:30 PM
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An electric powered propeller presents no danger?
I have seen more guys at my field get whacked by an electric prop than gas or glow. Those guys had a false sense of security and bumped the throttle, or accidently reversed the throttle channel instead of ailerons and wham!!! The worst I see is when another guy is holding the plane like a baby carrying it to the flight line and the pilot decides to check his throttle at that moment. Not pretty. But I have been there when a guy cut off a finger reaching throught the prop of a giant scale gasser.

Quicker, it seems that most of your glow planes were in the 40 - 50 size range. I still have glow planes that size but brushless power in that range is just too hard to pass up.
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:32 PM
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Guess I am lucky..never flew gas..

BL motors can turn over on some setups. Not full, but a revolution or 2..some of my panes have a prop locker, until I am ready to go.
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 05:09 PM
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Quicker, it seems that most of your glow planes were in the 40 - 50 size range. I still have glow planes that size but brushless power in that range is just too hard to pass up.
I've run from .25 to 1.60 sized glow. Had an EF 68" yak. Cool plane Had my own Skeeter 80. Very cool plane. They are what got me hooked on bigger planes and the desire to go to gas for anything not electric. I'm in the prototype stages of my own design 85" 50cc Extra 260.

I think now with the price of Lipos and the power of the motors anything under 45" is just automatic electric. Most of my planes in the 40-50" size have been done as both electric and glow so I can get an apples to apples comparison. The E versions are always better for many reasons, not just the slime and grime, but the performance is always better.

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Old Jul 12, 2007, 08:37 PM
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I gave up on glow in 1968 and went over to diesel... oh, wait, that's not the same thing, is it? Even my diesels are not getting as much exercise as my electrics or rubber f/f models.

Glow is in my very long distance past!
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 08:49 PM
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Electric motors don't have needle valves, and they have "built-in electric starters."
Many of the newer glo motors have a remote neeedle valve. I can almost bet this has saved me a few nicks.

However, I've had an electric start up unexpectedly (through my own inattentiveness) and chopped up my thigh really good. I was new to electrics and it just caught me by surprise. If I hadn't been quick enough to realize what was happening and get out of the way, it could have been much, much worse. It hurt like hell, but I'm glad it happened. I'm glad I got a wake-up call instead of losing a finger.....or worse.

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I think there is a lot less chance of getting bit by one, as long as you don't do something stupid.
That's the point, isn't it? You pretty much have to do something stupid to get bit by either one, and God knows we're all immune to doin' stupid things, right?

In the end, I don't think it matters which kind of motor just cut you to the bone. None of them are good in this respect.


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I have seen more guys at my field get whacked by an electric prop than gas or glow..
I don't really have a scientic sampling because my club is mostly nitro and the park is all electric. However, there is a 100% injury rate for anyone getting struck by propellers powered by either type of motor/engine.

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Those guys had a false sense of security
Which is exactly what happened to me.

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....or accidently reversed the throttle channel instead of ailerons and wham!!!
I had a brand new Mini Funana 480 that was completely finished and I was checking the programming right before I loaded up to go test it. The motor was running backwards. Being new to electrics, my mind reverted to nitro thinking and I simply reversed the throttle channel expecting that to fix it.

The thing blasted off the kitchen table and flew right into the china cabinet. The wife was extremely unamused.

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The worst I see is when another guy is holding the plane like a baby carrying it to the flight line and the pilot decides to check his throttle at that moment. Not pretty.
Never, ever, ever trust anyone else with your own safety. The only way you will ever be as safe as you can be is to take responsibility for your own safety. Someone else may be at fault, but when the prop starts chopping, you're gonna be the one that lives with the consequences.

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Guess I am lucky..never flew gas.. .
Some would call that bad luck. I fly mostly electric now, but I wouldn't give up my nitro memories for anything.
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