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Old Jul 11, 2007, 12:10 PM
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Esky King V2 Owners Lounge

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=656118

That's the link to the 1st thread.^^

LIPO SAFTEY:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209187

Here are some tools that would be helpful in maintaining and fixing your King2:
-ball link pliers
-2x 5.5mm thin walled nut drivers (for spindle shaft)
-a nice set of METRIC screwdrivers
-can of silicone spray for lubricating the belt
-Micro size heli pitch gauge

Spare Parts that Should be bought:
NOTE: Buying a Spare barebones kit would be best, but, only one time use for each part and it would probably turn into a 2nd heli. LOL.
• 275mm main blades
• King v2 main shaft(v1 will not work as it doesn’t have the hole for the belt drive pully pin)
• King2 skids(v1’s are obviously different)
• Spindle Shafts a.k.a. feathering shafts
• Bell control arm set
• Tail boom
• Flybar
• Main Gear

Posted upgrades that work for the King2:

MOTORS AND ESC'S:
-HDX300 brushless motor
-Esky 3100kv brushless motor(10-11T pinions)
-Esky 3900kv brushless motor(9-10T pinions)
-Esky 3800kv brushless motor(requires shaving of the frame, 8-9T pinions)
-Just Go Fly 400DH brushless motor(9T)
-Esky 25A brushless ESC with all Esky Motors
-Dynam 25A brushless ESC with all motors
-Castle Creations 25A brushless ESC With all motors

HEADSPEED WITH THE DIFFERENT MOTORS:
You can go to darkhorses headspeed caculator, can just google it and you'll find it.

Hailo came up with these:
The last one is the JGF motor

3100:
9T: ~1780
10T:~1970
11T: ~2160

3900:
9T: ~2230
10T:~2470
11T: ~2720

4400:
8T: ~2230
9T: ~2520
10T:~2790

GYROS:
-Futaba GY401 Gyro
-Futaba GY240 Gyro
-Logictech 2100T Gyro
-Telebee Gyro(along with other variations; align,HDX)
-Esky 0704A HH gyro
-Walkera Gyro with AVCS

SERVOS:
- Hitec HS55 for swash
- Hitec HS50 for tail
- Bluebird 306BB for swash
- Futaba 3154 Digital Servo for tail

Receivers:
-6100 receiver(spectrum only)
-Berg 7
-Hitec Electron6
-basicly anything that goes with your TX

Installation of the Brushless motor upgrade:
1. Take out the out the 4 screws that hold on the lower frame
2. Take off the Main gear
3. Then, take out the original brushed motor.
4. Remove the stock ESC from it’s original place
5. Keep all those parts in your parts box as you might need it for emergency’s
6. Solder on the bullet connectors that go onto the brushless motor(Esky motors come presoldered)
7. Shrink wrap all the metal
8. Solder on the bullet connectors on the ESC of your choice
9. Shrink wrap
10. Now, put on the motor with the included screws. NOTE: There might be different variations to the space apart from each set of holes.
11. Make sure you don’t tighten down the motor just yet
12. After you do that, you slide on the pinion from the bottom and tighten it all the way.(may want to use a drop of loctite for security)
13. Then you put the main gear back onto the main shaft.
14. Now it’s time for you to check the mesh of the main gear and the pinion gear from the motor. (You can just eyeball it till you think it’s fine, or you can use the paper trick. Basicly, that is you just take a piece of paper, stick it in between the pinion and the main gear and you move the pinion so it makes the paper go into the gear so there is only space of the paper. Then you spin the motor slowly and take out the paper.)
15. After you have done that, it is time for the you go program your ESC(follow the instructions your esc came with)
16. After you’ve done that, plug in the motor to the ESC.
17. Now it is time to check if your motor is spinning the right way. On the King 2, the motor should spin counterclockwise when looking at the motor from the top. Then if it’s not, switch two of the wires to the ESC from the motor. I personally use the Dynam ESC so I will have a picture included on what I did. (you might want to take off main blades or the main gear for this)
18. Place the ESC where you want on the heli that would make sense
19. Now, put everything back together and your ready for flight with the brushless motor

Picture:


Setting up the telebee on the stock radio should be this easy:
Step 1: plug the servo directly into channel 4 on the receiver and center the servo. Then get the control horn as close to 90 degrees as you can. Then install the tail linkage and with the servo centered make sure that the tail blades have no pitch negative or positive.
Step 2: Now set the gyro gain pot so that it's right in the center of its movement and then turn it to the left about 1/4 of a turn. This should put the gyro at about 80-90% gain in rate mode. Unplug the motor from the speed controller and plug the battery in. You can now check and make sure that the gyro is working. In rate mode it should react to jerks of the nose left and right and the rudder stick should also move the tail blades.
That's how you can check to make sure the gyro is working. For a proper setup of the telebee gyro follow these steps. It's much easier to read it there then for me to retype it.
http://www.trextuning.com/alignhhgyro.php
If you don't use the remote gain plug then the transmitter does not matter at all. I would definitally recommend using the pot on the gyro to do the adjustments and just leave it at that until you program a computer radio for the heli.
The telebee gyro has 2 sets of wires coming off it. One with 3 wires that goes into a servo female plug and one with just 1 orange (or yellow don't remember) wire that goes into a female servo plug.
The one that has a single wire going into it is for remote gain control. If you connect that to channel 5 on the receiver and the transmitter knows how to set remote gain on a gyro then the pot on the gyro is disabled and it uses the settings from the transmitter. Since you are using the stock TX ignore that wire until you get a computer radio for the heli and use the pot on the gyro itself for adjustments.
The plug with the 3 wires goes into channel 4 on the receiver.
finless also went into detail on this gyro here:
HDX300 Tail and Gyro setup(46 Megs)
if that link does not work you can find it here:
http://www.helifreak.com/viewtopic.php?t=17482
Stock rotor blade weighs in at 16.6g, and the Plastic one's w/ some 1mm HDXSHIMS weighs in at 23.9g. Would be great for those still learning, but for any sort of aggressive flying, it would probably be a hindrance.

HB KING v2 TIPS:
Channels as per factory set up are:
1. Aileron (port side back servo)
2. Elevator (front servo just behind motor)
3. ESC
4. Rudder (tail servo)-> gyro->receiver
5. Empty (used for HH gyro)
6. Pitch (starboard side back servo) I have no idea why Esky calls it "pitch"
batt: empty
The throttle and trim are set to zero on your Tx.
The antenna is fully extended on your Tx.
The rudder switch is set to 'reverse' on your Tx.
The gyro is plugged in to Channel 4 on the receiver.

http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...roducts_id=1299
http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...roducts_id=1609
http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...roducts_id=1821
http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...roducts_id=3093
http://www.rc711.com/shop/product_i...products_id=190 Flight Sim Cable
http://www.rc711.com/shop/product_i...products_id=255
http://www.rc711.com/shop/product_i...products_id=311
http://www.rc711.com/shop/product_i...products_id=294
http://www.rc711.com/shop/product_i...products_id=197
http://www.rc711.com/shop/product_i...products_id=251


All the Switches and knobs on the Stock Esky Transmitter:

-Gyro SW switch is just when you have a heading hold gyro, you can switch it between a HH gyro or a Rate gyro
-Upper left switch is the idle up mode. For doing 3D
-Upper right switch is the trainer switch. It’s for when you are buddy boxing and you are the master.
-Upper left knob, Setting pitch of the main blades just sitting there. If you go lower, you can get more headspeed but less overall positive pitch. If you go higher, you get lower headspeed and more overall pitch.
-upper right knob is the the pitch trim.



MODE 1 V.S. MODE 2


Here is a link to Crash-n-hard's video page:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=695336

Helpful Links:

Link to place locally that has the 5.5mm nut driver:
http://www.autozone.com/R,NONAPP2453...ductDetail.htm

Link to a guide on how to put together the CNC head
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=1105

Link to DX7 Setup Video:
http://www.helifreak.com/viewtopic.p...r=asc&&start=0

Please Add This Link to the Location for the Steel Pinions: http://www.readyheli.com/RevCo_Pinions_s/109.htm

Link to Finless bob's videos:
http://www.helifreak.com/viewforum.php?f=95
(telebee zoom gyro setup under HDX300 tail setup)

Link to all Pictures from Thread #1:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attac...mentid=1256606

Place where parts(upgrade and spare) can be found:
www.miracle-mart.com
www.bananahobby.com
www.buzzflyer.com.uk
www.helidirect.com
www.rc711.com
www.hooobby.com
www.bphobbies.com (for some spare parts that are
compatable with King v1)
www.rchelicoptershop.com
www.hobby-lobby.com
www.heliguy.com
http://www.rc-spareparts.com/
-RCSUPERSALES.NET

Use this code at rcsupersales.net and get a 10% discount on your order! Thanks Kyle

CODE:
HBK2RCG10%



Helpful Pictures:














(Thanks Crash-N-Hard!)

My Fleet as of 2008
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...ostcount=15211


Please PM me if you have any corrections or things you want to add to this.


Later
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 12:17 PM
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You Da Man ERIC!

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Old Jul 11, 2007, 12:30 PM
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I wonder when all the others will tag along to this thread now

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I wonder when all the others will tag along to this thread now

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Did you fix your link to this thread Eric on your Last Post There?
Last Time I looked it was a broken link.

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Old Jul 11, 2007, 12:36 PM
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Did you fix your link to this thread Eric on your Last Post There?
Last Time I looked it was a broken link.

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Yes, i fixed it. Thanks for the catch

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Old Jul 11, 2007, 12:39 PM
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Xeispen:Hey guys I'm new to the forum, and I just got a HB King V2(first heli) from Heli direct. I won't be able to fly it for about a week though. I read through all the posts in the thread and you guys are great.

I got a question for you darthdrk. I was thinking about getting the same brushless as you but in the reviews people said the HDX300BL had a lot of bad vibrations, is that true? I was also thinking of the Dynam 25A esc. Can someone tell me if they will work toghether? One more thing will I have to get a connector to hook it all up?

[Edit]Anyone have any advice for set up for the first flight?

Answer: The HDX300 BL motor and 25A BL esc are compatible. I havent experienced any bad vibrations

HumVeeflyer:Thanks for the report, Darth. I'm curious bout the hdx motor and would like to know how it holds up to your expectations after a few flights.
Answer: I'll keep everyone posted if anything comes up.
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 12:41 PM
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Here's some of my better videos to date.

Vid #1: My 1st Ever Recorded Flying Video:
Esky Honey Bee King v2 Helicopter 3100kv 11t Pinion. (5 min 21 sec)


Vid #2: Showing LED Strobe Lights and Li-Po Alarm.
Honey Bee King v2 Dark Flying Showing Off LED's and Alarm (5 min 17 sec)


Vid #3: Just Swapped Over from the RTF to the ARF Kit. Maiden Flight.
Esky Honey Bee King v2 Helicopter 3900kv 10t Pinion Telebee. (3 min 58 sec)



Vid #4: Video of when i descovered that it would probably be safer for me to fly in the driveway vs. flying over the grass to prevent gear & belt stripping.
Bad Hovering Outdoors HB King v2 RC Helicopter. (2 min 15 sec)


Vid #5: This is what happened when i used an Align 10t Pinion with a 3900kv bl motor, I have since switched to Steel Pinions.
HB King v2 Heli with Bad Align 11t Pinion Bad 140t Main Gear (2 min 59 sec)


Vid #6: Taking the Heli for stroll.
HB King v2 RC Helicopter Outdoor Flight. (8 min 4 sec)


Vid # 7: Video #1 of Beginner Pop-Up's, Battery #1.
Beginner Pop-Up's Honey Bee King v2 RC Helicopter Video #1. (8 min 42 sec)


Vid #8: Video #2 of Beginner Pop-Up's, Battery #2.
Beginner Pop-Up's Honey Bee King v2 RC Helicopter Video #2. (6 min 57 sec)



Enjoy.
CNH
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 12:45 PM
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Nice work. Hey, do the servos that come with the DX6 (S75 servos) work on the King2?
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 12:45 PM
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Thanks for the response darthdrk. If I buy the HDX300bl, and the 25a esc, will i need the deans connectors, like the ones Eric got, and what are they for?
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 12:46 PM
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I'm using one on the tail and it's worked well for me so far. No stripped servos or anythign, but i'm just hovering. so...

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Old Jul 11, 2007, 12:46 PM
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 12:48 PM
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Thanks for the response darthdrk. If I buy the HDX300bl, and the 25a esc, will i need the deans connectors, like the ones Eric got.
Deans connectors are for the batteries. For the batteries. You can use deans or anderson poles. the stock ones aren't big enough for the kind of power the king 2 uses. If you wanted to use the deans for the motor, it won't work, You need some bullet connectors. O yea, why not just buy a Esky 3800kv motor from helidirect. I think their about the same price right? and the esky motors come with teh bullet conectors already.

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