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Old Jul 02, 2007, 08:52 PM
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New Pilot looking to get into Heli's!!

Hi everyone, I am new to this board and looking forward to getting into the helicopter hobby. I have spent a lot of time at the RunRyder forums but they are very much into the big expensive heli's. I am trying to find a decent inexpensive trainer helicopter. I would like to stay electric. Do you think I should start on a Fixed pitch or a collective pitch? What do you recommend? So far I have been looking at the HoneyBee and the Falcon3D. What are your thoughts? Other suggestions? Remember, I am brand new so I know very little about these so treat me as a total noob.
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Old Jul 02, 2007, 09:33 PM
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Welcome!

Step 1- Read the EHBG: http://www.swashplate.co.uk/ehbg/ehbg-17.pdf

Step 2, repeat step 1


I highly recommend that you first practice extensively with a sim. It's not necessary to learn that way, but it's definitely a lot less frustrating and less expensive. $200 for a sim might sound expensive, but it will pay for itself over and over again. Use the sim as a tool to learn the control basics and orientations first, then get a heli.

I use RealFlight G3.5 and it's quite good. The other good sim option would be Reflex XTR because it also models heli flight accurately, but I have not used it.

Save up at least $1500 to spend on a heli kit and the other electronics to get it flying. The bigger the heli the better, since they are more stable. A Century Swift 16 would be a good choice since you can easily reconfigure it to suit your needs as your skills develop.

Read through the Beginner's Guide- use it to familiarize yourself with common terminology and other info. The more you know, the better you can ask good questions.

Heli's are not easily learned, so be patient.

Again, welcome.
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Old Jul 02, 2007, 09:46 PM
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thanks. I just downloaded that guide. I also just got the Reflex flight sim but need a controller for it. What do you recommend? Preferably something cheap since I'll be getting a nice radio when I purchase my first helicopter.
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Old Jul 02, 2007, 09:47 PM
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I second that post by Gadget 101. Well put Gadget....Ron
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Old Jul 02, 2007, 09:57 PM
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if you are a total noob, then you might consider a smaller heli like a lama or bladecx just to get your thumbs dialed in and learn what it taskes to fly a heli that only costs $30 to crash, coz you will crash. granted the bigger helis are more stable, it's nice to fly inside in a controlled situation and learn how to make your thumbs work
my .02

have you flown anything before??
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Old Jul 02, 2007, 10:26 PM
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I always suggest people start with a FP.. if you have at least some rc plane experience the HBFP isn't to hard to grasp. A sim is also a good way to get practice when the weather isn't cooperating.
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Old Jul 02, 2007, 10:30 PM
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If you want basics and cheap about the only way is the dual rotor helis. Almost as good as a SIM, but as I said, almost.

Just buy the good radio now or get a used 4 channel off ebay for the SIM.

I have to agree about the Swift, great first heli

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Old Jul 03, 2007, 12:39 AM
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There are many ways to start.

IMHO, the micro co-axials give you a "feel" for it, but are too limited in performance to be more then that.

A simulator (even a basic inespensive one like the FMA - available from different manufatcurers with the free software and a TX with USB connection anywhere from $25.00 to $45.00) along with a heli like the Swift is a great place to start.

The sim will teach your mind what stick movements do what, and the Swift will do it in real life inexpensively and dependably. It is easily set-up with collective and cyclic sensitivities that are soft enough for basic training and as you progress you can change settings and power packages until you have a rather hot 3D heli.
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Old Jul 03, 2007, 06:01 AM
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thanks. I just downloaded that guide. I also just got the Reflex flight sim but need a controller for it. What do you recommend? Preferably something cheap since I'll be getting a nice radio when I purchase my first helicopter.
If you bought the XTR sim what USB interface cable did you get, one for a Futaba or JR? One won't work on the other unless Reflex is sending a cable that has connections for both.

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Old Jul 03, 2007, 06:13 AM
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Thanks for all the ideas. I have flown a small beginner plane a long time ago, but thats about it. I am still really leaning toward the Falcon 3D. It comes with everything including training gear, Tx, and usb connector for sims.
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Old Jul 03, 2007, 06:14 AM
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If you bought the XTR sim what USB interface cable did you get, one for a Futaba or JR? One won't work on the other unless Reflex is sending a cable that has connections for both.

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I dont have a cable yet. I need a cable and a transmitter.
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Old Jul 03, 2007, 06:36 AM
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Hi clawlan, I just received my Falcon 3D heli and hope to fly it tonight. I have a little experience but still consider myself to be a novice so ill let you know how it fly's for me.

I totally agree about getting a sim before a helicopter tho. Save's a lot money in the long run, I know .

Ja.
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Old Jul 03, 2007, 06:36 AM
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I dont have a cable yet. I need a cable and a transmitter.
Then Reflex must be selling the cables separately? You do know you have to use their cable.

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Old Jul 03, 2007, 05:19 PM
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Then Reflex must be selling the cables separately? You do know you have to use their cable.

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oops, I mean I have PhoenixRC. I need a cable and a transmitter. If I get a HoneyBee, will the tx that comes with that work with the sim?
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Old Jul 03, 2007, 05:49 PM
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I just received my Falcon 3D heli Ja.
Oi - Ja you dark horse! That must be the new heli your mum mentioned to me! You've been rumbled! Speak to ya soon!

clawlan - a CP heli is a more complex beastie than a fixed pitch heli, both in setting up and crash repair. Get that training gear bolted on, make sure the heli's set up correctly, and take gentle steps! If you can borrow, or even budget to buy a co-axial heli then that will give you a far quicker hovering fix, complete with silly grin, but the single rotor stuff doesn't have the same stability However, get a single rotor hovering around okay and the grin just gets bigger!
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