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Old Jul 27, 2009, 10:13 PM
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GI- Looks awesome. I am kind of bummed that my cool new plane has repair cracks in it. I have to hand it to GWS they put some decent detail into, one of the best looking P-40 kits out there. Good luck with your flight and let me know how it goes.

BTW what size is that spinner and is it a Dubro?
I about cried! One great flight followed by a stall and auger on hand launch! Not too badly damaged. Just looks like it needs a new cowl. I knew it was too pretty to fly.

BTW 2-3/4" Dubro

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Old Jul 27, 2009, 10:14 PM
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3" dubro fits pretty well

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is that the stock motor spinning the 3" dubro? just curious,also what prop are you using..i was a little surprised to see your cowl had not been opened up..i think the airflow helps alot..i have the epo version it weighs a fraction shy of 2 lbs. i felt it was necessary to ventilate my electronics...man i love this plane
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Old Jul 27, 2009, 10:18 PM
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I about cried! One great flight followed by a stall and auger on hand launch! Not too badly damaged. Just looks like it needs a new cowl. I knew it was too pretty to fly.

BTW 2-3/4" Dubro

Regards,
Alan

ahh man sorry to hear that..i bought another one after a bad crash the other day.. it is still in the box, i keep repairing my old one.. the epo is tough stuff..

i wsh they would send a spare cowl in the box, i'm on my third one from caliber hobby... hey how much throttle with what prop on your hand launch?
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Old Jul 27, 2009, 10:58 PM
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I about cried! One great flight followed by a stall and auger on hand launch! Not too badly damaged. Just looks like it needs a new cowl. I knew it was too pretty to fly.

BTW 2-3/4" Dubro

Regards,
Alan
Ah man, sorry to hear that. I know how it feels. That second flight that did mine in, I knew I shouldn't have tried it. My gut said quit now, but I ignored it. Like I said, I got my crash out of the way so now I can make it look good. I will look for a spinner at my hobby shop thanks.

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Old Jul 28, 2009, 01:49 PM
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What the..@#$%

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I about cried! One great flight followed by a stall and auger on hand launch! Not too badly damaged. Just looks like it needs a new cowl. I knew it was too pretty to fly.

BTW 2-3/4" Dubro

Regards,
Alan
Dayum Alan, regret hearing that..... I have been wondering how I am going to repair/replace my cowl when i finally maiden this P40 (still in the box). I suspect a lot of folks are frustrated like you.

there is a guy that bought the parkzone P51, flew it the first day, no problem, nice plane...the next day flew it into a tree....Looks Ok now, but has some battle damage on it....

Sorry to hear it amigo,

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Old Jul 28, 2009, 03:17 PM
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Here's a cheap tip for those with nice cowlings still. Get some packing tape and line the inside of the cowl with it the best you can. This will give you some added strength in the case of a "bad" landing.

A little more expensive tip is to add a layer of .5oz fiberglass to the inside.

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Old Jul 29, 2009, 08:15 AM
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I just ordered the last remaining P40 Cowls from GWS I have 25 available. THese were hard to get and GWS keeps backordering everything like they sell stock and never produce more. I'd like to know if they plan on supplying parts?

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http://gwsprops.com/gws_p40.htm
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Old Jul 29, 2009, 09:13 AM
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You're a life saver. I'll be making an order today.

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I just ordered the last remaining P40 Cowls from GWS I have 25 available. THese were hard to get and GWS keeps backordering everything like they sell stock and never produce more. I'd like to know if they plan on supplying parts?

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http://gwsprops.com/gws_p40.htm
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Old Jul 29, 2009, 10:43 AM
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When the original cowl on my GWS 190 finally died, I made a new one with pink foam and fiberglassed (minwax) it. I painted a thick layer of epoxy on the chin of the cowl where it scrapes in a nose-over. If you are frustrated with the GWS 40 cowl, that's what you should do. It would only take a couple of evenings. What people may not realize about the flimsy stock cowls is that they will break without damaging the rest of the plane. If the cowl is very strong, it may damage the front of the plane in a rough landing.
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Old Jul 29, 2009, 10:56 AM
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When the original cowl on my GWS 190 finally died, I made a new one with pink foam and fiberglassed (minwax) it. I painted a thick layer of epoxy on the chin of the cowl where it scrapes in a nose-over. If you are frustrated with the GWS 40 cowl, that's what you should do. It would only take a couple of evenings.
The 190 cowl is round. The P40 cowl is quite a but different shape and has a lot of detail with the cooling vents in the lower front of the cowl. In 300 evenings, I could never make a cowl out of foam that I would be satisfied with. Some people have that gift, I do not.


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What people may not realize about the flimsy stock cowls is that they will break without damaging the rest of the plane. If the cowl is very strong, it may damage the front of the plane in a rough landing.
Foam is easy to fix. I would rather glass the inside of the cowl, and fix the foam on the front of the plane.
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Old Jul 29, 2009, 10:56 AM
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Nose Problems?

Here's another idea, take that flimsy plastic cowling, coat the inside with some oil, pour some concrete inside and incert an oil coated smaller cowling as a form to hold the concrete against the outersell, this will leave a hollow inside area for the motor, let it cure for a few days, strip off the plastic and forming material and put that piece of concrete on the nose of your plane. Might be a little nose heavy, but it should last....

;-)

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Old Jul 29, 2009, 11:02 AM
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Here's another idea, take that flimsy plastic cowling, coat the inside with some oil, pour some concrete inside and incert an oil coated smaller cowling as a form to hold the concrete against the outersell, this will leave a hollow inside area for the motor, let it cure for a few days, strip off the plastic and forming material and put that piece of concrete on the nose of your plane. Might be a little nose heavy, but it should last....

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Mike

I think an even more novel concept would be to use quality material in the first place, rather than having customers consider a concrete cowl as a viable alternative.
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Old Jul 29, 2009, 11:32 AM
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...customers consider a concrete cowl...
Try saying that 5 times fast!
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Old Jul 29, 2009, 11:35 AM
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Might not be such a crazy idea afterall...

That is so true, why use flimsy plastic for a cowling?

you know, the idea of using the cowling as a form may not be such a terrible idea, only fill it with some other material that is more durable and light enough? Maybe fill it with some of that ultra light spackling. An inside form could be used and then any material that needs to be removed from the inside to make room for things and provid ventilation could be cut/routered out. That would make a stronger nose, but not too much stronger and multiple noses could be made using the plastic cowl as a form...

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Old Jul 29, 2009, 12:16 PM
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got my order in

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I just ordered the last remaining P40 Cowls from GWS I have 25 available. THese were hard to get and GWS keeps backordering everything like they sell stock and never produce more. I'd like to know if they plan on supplying parts?

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http://gwsprops.com/gws_p40.htm
I just ordered two cowlings from the link you provided. Thanks, I may need them later on....

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