****GWS-40: The Never-Ending Legend of Flying Tigers**** - Page 5

Red 61 · Jun 25, 2007, 09:03 PM

"He PAID for two kills." What does that mean?

Tommy D · Jun 25, 2007, 09:18 PM

Re-read it. It says he was paid for 2 kills, not the number of kills he claimed.

Tommy D

Red 61 · Jun 25, 2007, 09:29 PM

OH! He WAS paid. Now, THAT makes sense.

kensp · Jun 25, 2007, 09:32 PM

The difference in the radio aerials is becase in the early part of WWII most fighters were equiped with HF(High Frequency) radios that reqired a long aerials. Somtime in early to mid 1942 the fighters were equiped with VHF(Very High Frequency) radios that used a shorter aerial wire. I have a photo of USAAF P40s taking off of an aircraft carrier in November 1942 during Operation Torch and they have the shorter aerial.

This is a similar thing to the fact that the new 2.4 Gh Tx have a far shorter aerial because the operate on a higher frequency. By the end of WWII only bombers and transports used HF radios becase the HF sets had a longer range. Short range fighter jocks were quite happy with the shorter range of the VHF sets.

crxmanpat

I think that you wil be inerested in this Restored P-40C It should be relatively easy to convert the GWS -40 to a P-40C becase the GWS model is of the earlier short fuselages P-40E and F types. Only the section forward of the engine exausts in the A,B and C variants is different from the E variant.

The P-40C, or Tomahawk as the RAAF, called them had a 6 inches longer front cowling with a lower propeller center line. From the drawings I have the spinner does not appear to have been changed much between the C and E models models only the thrustline.

So by mounting the motor lower down in the nose and making a new front cowling an AVG P-40C should be easy to make. Just compare the Tomakawk IIb (P-40C) to the P40E in this drawing

Ken

Tommy D · Jun 25, 2007, 09:32 PM

Checking for obscure P-40s I have found a few intersting ones...

A Highly modded reno racer that I don't believe ever flew and a P I N K one flown by a gal.

Well shucks!

Tommy D

jamesdr · Jun 25, 2007, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy D

...and a P I N K one flown by a gal. D

It will match your pink P-39.

Jim

crxmanpat · Jun 26, 2007, 12:41 AM

Ken,

Thanks for the link. I have seen that one before. And if GWS does not have the decals for it in the kit, they are also listed on the Scale Decals thread over in the Scale forum.

But I think I'm going to stick with Pappy's plane. It's a simple scheme to reproduce.

Pat

Red 61 · Jun 26, 2007, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy D

...and a P I N K one flown by a gal.

Uh oh... A PINK P-40?! That's just not right...

Tommy D · Jun 26, 2007, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesdr

It will match your pink P-39.

Jim

He He He... Bring it!

Hey it looks red indoors!

Tommy D

Red 61 · Jun 26, 2007, 08:48 AM

Tommy -- you can't fool me! It looks PINK!

(or, maybe just a really LIGHT color of red...)

Bill Lesko · Jun 26, 2007, 12:54 PM

I think I've seen the PINK P-40 you are all talking about at the Oshkosh airshow in 1985. Yes, it was all pink and a 50+ year old women owned and flew it.

BTW, there were hundreds of PINK fighters and bombers in WWII. Yep, that's correct, no kidding. The planes were originally painted tan but the harsh sun in the Libyan Desert faded the tan pigment and the paint turned pink. I'm sure that you can read about it on line somewhere.

Bill

Red 61 · Jun 26, 2007, 01:34 PM

Well, I'm pretty sure there were some pink Photo Recon aircraft in WWII. These aircraft were INTENTIONALLY painted pink.

Bill Lesko · Jun 26, 2007, 02:04 PM

Your PINK P-40 is hanging off the ceiling of the Kalamazoo Aviation History Museum. Check it out. Bill

Tom Frank · Jun 26, 2007, 03:41 PM

Here it is!

Some how it just doesn't look "right", though!

Red 61 · Jun 26, 2007, 04:00 PM

"In 1977, the Warhawk was painted in its now-famous Libyan desert pink paint scheme."

Jun 25, 2007, 09:32 PM	#64
kensp Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Darwin Australia Posts: 6,345	The difference in the radio aerials is becase in the early part of WWII most fighters were equiped with HF(High Frequency) radios that reqired a long aerials. Somtime in early to mid 1942 the fighters were equiped with VHF(Very High Frequency) radios that used a shorter aerial wire. I have a photo of USAAF P40s taking off of an aircraft carrier in November 1942 during Operation Torch and they have the shorter aerial. This is a similar thing to the fact that the new 2.4 Gh Tx have a far shorter aerial because the operate on a higher frequency. By the end of WWII only bombers and transports used HF radios becase the HF sets had a longer range. Short range fighter jocks were quite happy with the shorter range of the VHF sets. crxmanpat I think that you wil be inerested in this Restored P-40C It should be relatively easy to convert the GWS -40 to a P-40C becase the GWS model is of the earlier short fuselages P-40E and F types. Only the section forward of the engine exausts in the A,B and C variants is different from the E variant. The P-40C, or Tomahawk as the RAAF, called them had a 6 inches longer front cowling with a lower propeller center line. From the drawings I have the spinner does not appear to have been changed much between the C and E models models only the thrustline. So by mounting the motor lower down in the nose and making a new front cowling an AVG P-40C should be easy to make. Just compare the Tomakawk IIb (P-40C) to the P40E in this drawing Ken Attached Thumbnails 76.9 KB · Views: 411 Last edited by kensp; Jun 26, 2007 at 12:05 AM.

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Jun 25, 2007, 09:03 PM	#61
Red 61 Outcast outlaw Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: As far away from RCGroups and the AMA as possible! Posts: 6,562	"He PAID for two kills." What does that mean?

Jun 25, 2007, 09:18 PM	#62
Tommy D It eats birds for Breakfast! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Islip New York Posts: 8,950	Re-read it. It says he was paid for 2 kills, not the number of kills he claimed. Tommy D

Jun 25, 2007, 09:29 PM	#63
Red 61 Outcast outlaw Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: As far away from RCGroups and the AMA as possible! Posts: 6,562	OH! He WAS paid. Now, THAT makes sense.

Jun 26, 2007, 12:41 AM	#67
crxmanpat TEAM EJF MINION Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 9,366	Ken, Thanks for the link. I have seen that one before. And if GWS does not have the decals for it in the kit, they are also listed on the Scale Decals thread over in the Scale forum. But I think I'm going to stick with Pappy's plane. It's a simple scheme to reproduce. Pat

Jun 26, 2007, 08:48 AM	#70
Red 61 Outcast outlaw Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: As far away from RCGroups and the AMA as possible! Posts: 6,562	Tommy -- you can't fool me! It looks PINK! (or, maybe just a really LIGHT color of red...)

Jun 26, 2007, 12:54 PM	#71
Bill Lesko Flyboy Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Annapolis, Md Posts: 735	I think I've seen the PINK P-40 you are all talking about at the Oshkosh airshow in 1985. Yes, it was all pink and a 50+ year old women owned and flew it. BTW, there were hundreds of PINK fighters and bombers in WWII. Yep, that's correct, no kidding. The planes were originally painted tan but the harsh sun in the Libyan Desert faded the tan pigment and the paint turned pink. I'm sure that you can read about it on line somewhere. Bill

Jun 26, 2007, 01:34 PM	#72
Red 61 Outcast outlaw Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: As far away from RCGroups and the AMA as possible! Posts: 6,562	Well, I'm pretty sure there were some pink Photo Recon aircraft in WWII. These aircraft were INTENTIONALLY painted pink.

Jun 26, 2007, 02:04 PM	#73
Bill Lesko Flyboy Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Annapolis, Md Posts: 735	Your PINK P-40 is hanging off the ceiling of the Kalamazoo Aviation History Museum. Check it out. Bill

Jun 26, 2007, 03:41 PM	#74
Tom Frank Dance the skies... Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sammamish, WA Posts: 5,993	Here it is! Some how it just doesn't look "right", though!

Jun 26, 2007, 04:00 PM	#75
Red 61 Outcast outlaw Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: As far away from RCGroups and the AMA as possible! Posts: 6,562	"In 1977, the Warhawk was painted in its now-famous Libyan desert pink paint scheme."