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Old Jul 12, 2007, 10:53 AM
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That is clever with the animated picture in full screen. At first, I thought something got into my eyes and did a double take.

Now the question, who will be the first to bash the kit. Our Aussie friends are getting them in the shops now, any word on getting them into the US distribution system?

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Old Jul 12, 2007, 11:58 AM
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ronin,

i think this is what bandit was looking to send you...
Thanks Gunracer, that's exactly what I did.
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 01:21 PM
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If you want to clip the wings - clip the ends and put a new tip on. The size of the inboard wings and flap are correct - but the ailerons and outer wings got stretched.
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 01:29 PM
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Is it a drumming sound, or beating in the air? and it sort of varies up and down slightly?

We were discussing this before and it appears the drumming or beating sound gets more noticeable the closer the RPM of the two fans is. When I first set mine up I tested each fan and set the ESC timing so as to bring them as close together as possible. This caused a beating sound in the air. Resetting the 2 esc's back to standard and it dissapeared, this is because the RPM difference went back to almost 1000. Before it was within a few hundred.

So if it is beating dont worry about it, most likely your fans are pretty close in RPM to each other.
Hey Extreme,

I haven't played around with timing yet. You seem to be pretty familiar with the GWS 005A inrunners. I have them on a GWS 25A esc, set to auto timing. It has 5, 12, 18, 25 degrees of timing...would you recommend some other timing instead of having it set to auto timing? Anyone have a link to a good tutorial on motor timing?
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 02:53 PM
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GWS - F-15 available in Switzerland since yesterday....
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 03:14 PM
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Well, really the whole wing has been blown up so just shortening the outer pannel would be wrong as well. Cutting it at the root at least reduces span AND root chord.


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Old Jul 12, 2007, 03:26 PM
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thanks gunracer
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:43 PM
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Cannot wait

Cannot wait until maiden tomorrow....

For those who dont have her at home: Shes much more beautiful in real, and much bigger then it appears on the pictures
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:52 PM
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OK, Now I also "sanded" a new tip. Obviously the proportions aren't actually scale but It sure wasn't scale to begin with either. I think we may be loosing too much area by the time we do both root and tip this much though.
We'll see how it looks once we can get a hold of some spare wing panels. Didn't I read somewhere that there was a rumor that GWS was going to offer a more scale wing panel? Was there any truth in that?

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Old Jul 12, 2007, 06:16 PM
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First sighting...

GWS Products online is advertising the F-15

$99 for white, $108 gray. With EDF 64's and "BL2028" (don't know what that is.

http://www.gwsproductsonline.com/search.asp

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Old Jul 12, 2007, 07:15 PM
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That's the motor(s)

No NPS listed?
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 09:57 PM
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db1 why are you posting my photos of the F15??

Ahh I see whats happening now, wasnt doing its blinky wing chopped thing before, thought u had posted up the wrong pic! Hmm interesting idea, would be easy enough to do. Not that i want to build another one mind you!
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 11:42 PM
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I might take a stab at clipping the wings. Not that this plane doesn't fly well, but I don't find mine to be the most fun anymore, and I have even considered tearing the power system out (to use in an X-flight foamy jet). IMO the 262 was much more fun to fly, but w/ some clipped wings, the F-15 could be a blast to fly too.
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Old Jul 13, 2007, 12:07 AM
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I was playing around w/ the idea of clipping the wings from the root, and I took some pics to get the general idea of what it would look like from the top view.

Comparing all pics to the full-scale 3-view, I think the last pic is the closest. Using the panel lines as a reference, you can get an idea of how much wing root was hidden.
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Old Jul 13, 2007, 02:48 AM
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With a little bit of extra time on my hands, I dove straight into my wing clipping attempt. I ultimately decided to take off 2.5" from each wing, as this (IMO) gave it the most scale look possible w/o cutting into the wingtips and/or other parts of the jet.

The location of the mid spar was transferred before the chunk of wing was cut off. The forward wing joint spar will not be able to be used -due to the severely reduced root chord-, and because of the thinner wing thickness -when cut down 2.5"-, the aft wing joint spar block cannot be used either, just the spar itself w/ a groove cut into the bottom of the wing. Because of these two factors, I will permanently epoxy the wings on, so I can have sufficient wing stiffness, and because the whole plane does not take up nearly the space it used to w/ the wings attatched anymore. 6" of reduced wing span makes a big difference. Later I will epoxy the wings on w/ applicable anhedral.

Any CG experts out there have any idea if the CG will have to go forward, back, or stay the same? IMO it will either stay the same or have to go a bit aft.
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