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Old May 08, 2007, 09:05 PM
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What size you looking for? I have a 6 inch that I don't need anymore. New, but has a little surface rust (fire hoses get water everwhere )

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LOL - Fred - so glad that you can look back and make light of such a devastating event.

I've been slowly amassing tooling for my planned mill purchase - I've about got all the tooling and measuring tools I envision needing for the designs floating around in my skull. eBay can be a real treasure trove if you're patient and have a good eye - but you can easily get burned too.

Good luck Phil - I will be watching with great excitement. Is your setup CNC or manual?
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Old May 09, 2007, 03:55 AM
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Good luck Phil - I will be watching with great excitement. Is your setup CNC or manual?
Manual... Basically it's the smallest mill I could find - the SIEG X1 Micro mill. It's still heavy enough that I can only just move it without help and it's rather bigger than it looked in the catalogue.
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Old May 09, 2007, 04:30 AM
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I have the X2 mill, they are much heavier than i expected.

Thanks Fred but 4 inch is about all i can fit , i am just looking at clamping options etc before i buy.

Come on Phil, i want to see more progress.
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Old May 09, 2007, 12:24 PM
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Head finished bar the slot that'll allow me to nip the head to the shaft (slitting saw arbour ordered) and the head damper recesses. I'm still deciding on the head dampers... the Eco 8 has a pair of O rings. I'll have to find some suitable ones that'll fit the enlarged (5mm) feathering shaft that I'm fitting.

I've taken a substantial amount of material off since the last pic...

Next up... the collective pitch compensator centre hub...

Lesson learned today -

Milling machines rob time from you... Sit down at the machine and start work... next thing you know it's 2 hours later.
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Old May 09, 2007, 03:26 PM
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Phil, from making beautiful planes, to beautiful helis? Looking forward to seeing your progress. Good going!
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Old May 09, 2007, 08:15 PM
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Looking nice - I'm planning for an X3 myself.
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Old May 10, 2007, 01:17 PM
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Made the collective pitch compensator centre hub today...

A bit of lathe work today as well as milling. The collective pitch compensator centre hub slides nicely on the main shaft thanks to a brass bush. The anti rotation pins are 3mm silver steel, turned down where they fit into the head - a slight interference fit - will be glued in later.

I could of done with an edge finder or wiggler set today, but am finding it difficult to source metric one without spending silly money... I resorted to using the milling cutter and a cigarette paper to find the edge of the work - a bit rough, I know, but the method seems to work well.

The next job is to finalise my list of bearings for the heli so that I can get them ordered.
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Old May 10, 2007, 05:01 PM
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Keep up the great work
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Old May 11, 2007, 04:35 AM
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Wow this *will* be exciting

Phil helped me build my first AP Plane and I've always been in awe of his work .....

Keep up the great work Phil


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Old May 13, 2007, 01:29 PM
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After a bad day yesterday when I balls'd up two blade clamps - due to a lack of patience on my part, I've had a productive day today...

I've started on the flybar control frame. As you can see from the trerrible photo, I've carved it from a single piece of ally. The next job on it is to drill holes for bearings, then use a slitting saw to separate the frame from the block, before machining the other side.

Bearings and more aluminium alloy is ordered...
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Old May 13, 2007, 03:05 PM
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Hope we get to see your workshop at the end of this.
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Old May 13, 2007, 06:23 PM
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Is your mill CNC controlled Phil?


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Old May 14, 2007, 05:49 AM
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Hope we get to see your workshop at the end of this.
Hmmm, I'm not actually working in my workshop for the heli... I bought the mill with no thought as to where I'd put it. Try as I might, I couldn't find space for it in the workshop, so it's in the kitchen - Swarf is a devil to get out of the carpet, and now it's migrating into the lounge and up the stairs...

Hogster - no it's not a CNC mil. The flybar control frame took me *all* of yesterday to make... just keep turning the handles...

Blade grip bearings have just plopped thro' the letterbox... time to start work.
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Old May 14, 2007, 06:20 AM
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x1 is fairly nice machine and easy to CNC as well. I actually think it is better to cnc than x2 due to lead screw design on the z axis. you can also get larger table option if you need it. all good stuff. doing this on small manual mill is very time consuming. wow.
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Old May 14, 2007, 05:09 PM
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x1 is fairly nice machine and easy to CNC as well. I actually think it is better to cnc than x2 due to lead screw design on the z axis. you can also get larger table option if you need it. all good stuff. doing this on small manual mill is very time consuming. wow.

I am sure that made sense to someone
I have never come across anything as complex and technical as this machining and tooling stuff, its a whole new world to me.
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