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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:55 PM
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Cord is the length of a straight line from wing leading edge to trailing edge.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 03:08 PM
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so the with of the main wing?
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 09:05 PM
I'm not flying backwards!
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Tony: thanks for the rudder tip. I tried it this am. Wind almost 0, and I really tried focusing on what I and the plane were doing. First, I realized I'm holding the ailerons too long into the turn. I started consciously just blipping to start the roll, and most of the wing drop disappeared (Obvious once ya think about it - duh!). Then added rudder instead of just ele and she came around nicely. I'd earlier tried rudder/ele, but without dihedral, turns were flat/wierd, of course. I still have the tendency to start climbing into a stall with left turn. But I found that the full up travel of left aileron is greater than right one. I also have lots of differential (mostly up, very little down) which I put in because earlier the ailerons didn't seem effective at all with balanced throws. But I recently switched from 3oz nimh to 1+oz lipo, so plane is lighter, less pendulum effect now. I think I'm gonna recut ailerons and reinstall, and reduce the differential to make sure the wing at least is balanced.

Thanks for putting up with my questions

mike
Never a problem Mike. I think you're looking in the right place. Differential throw is desirable most of the time because the downgoing aileron generates more drag than the upgoing one, creating yaw in the wrong direction (adverse yaw). However, the downgoing aileron is more effective at raising a wing than the upgoing aileron is at dropping a wing do this needs to be applied in moderation. Just like full scale aircraft, rudder must applied to counter the adverse yaw. Voila! A Coordinated Turn! (the rudder/aileron interaction is what the "coordinated" stands for.

With a computer radio you can electronically mix the two together so you don't need as much "two thumb coordination" The BB likes this. As I said before, BB's need some rudder with the ailerons. That's part of what makes a good trainer, The ability to teach the pilot what is needed without biting the inexperienced flyer.

Tony
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 09:18 PM
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I gave away MY BluBaby today... needed to clean out the Hangar since I'm moving in a month. She will be missed, she served me well,... hopefully she'll be as good to her next owner as she was to me.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 09:53 PM
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You (gasp) gave away your only Baby. That was unselfish of you, when are you starting the next one (lol)

Tony
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 10:12 PM
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well got my push rods installed and when i went to my supply box NO MORE control horns!!! waaa, oh well, will have to hit the supply store tommorow, and get some more supplys and the wfie said yes to a minor shopping spree at the hobby shop so will be hitting it for more parts and such.

oh yeah Tony were you able to beg off the late night meeting on monday or not, if you haven't that is ok i will be working till 7 pm on tues but if you care to drop by let me know
jim
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 10:13 PM
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so the with of the main wing?
Yes, the cord can be described as the width of the wing.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 10:19 PM
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well got my push rods installed and when i went to my supply box NO MORE control horns!!! waaa, oh well, will have to hit the supply store tommorow, and get some more supplys and the wfie said yes to a minor shopping spree at the hobby shop so will be hitting it for more parts and such.

oh yeah Tony were you able to beg off the late night meeting on monday or not, if you haven't that is ok i will be working till 7 pm on tues but if you care to drop by let me know
jim

No need to go to the hobby store. Just cut up your credit card. Cut them to shape, drill a couple of hole in them, roughen the base up, cut a slot in the control surface and epoxy them in. Your wifey will thank you.

Go on you still have time to do it before bedtime.

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Old Apr 06, 2008, 10:26 PM
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No need to go to the hobby store. Just cut up your credit card. Cut them to shape, drill a couple of hole in them, roughen the base up, cut a slot in the control surface and epoxy them in. Your wifey will thank you.

Go on you still have time to do it before bedtime.

chewy
NEVER look a shopping spree at the LHS!!! i need to get there to get some more depron as well!! and other goods as well and teh WIFE SAID yes!! so i don't mind waiting
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 10:33 PM
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well got my push rods installed and when i went to my supply box NO MORE control horns!!! waaa, oh well, will have to hit the supply store tommorow, and get some more supplys and the wfie said yes to a minor shopping spree at the hobby shop so will be hitting it for more parts and such.

oh yeah Tony were you able to beg off the late night meeting on monday or not, if you haven't that is ok i will be working till 7 pm on tues but if you care to drop by let me know
jim
Still don't know Jim. I'll phone if I'm coming up.

Tony
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 10:37 PM
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No need to go to the hobby store. Just cut up your credit card. Cut them to shape, drill a couple of hole in them, roughen the base up, cut a slot in the control surface and epoxy them in. Your wifey will thank you.

Go on you still have time to do it before bedtime.

chewy
Chewy, you took the words right out of my mouth. Jim, I have about a zillion old plastic card hotel room keys. Want a stack? It isn't like I can't get more. They make great control horns and other reinforcing bits. I got a zillion popsicle sticks too...want some?

Tony
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 11:01 PM
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You (gasp) gave away your only Baby. That was unselfish of you, when are you starting the next one (lol)

Tony
I WILL build another, bigger, stronger, and with KF3 wings... going for duration and camera platform next time
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 11:03 PM
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well got my push rods installed and when i went to my supply box NO MORE control horns!!! waaa, ...
jim
Try these...

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=212
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 11:04 PM
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well got my push rods installed and when i went to my supply box NO MORE control horns!!! waaa, oh well, will have to hit the supply store tommorow, and get some more supplys and the wfie said yes to a minor shopping spree at the hobby shop so will be hitting it for more parts and such.

oh yeah Tony were you able to beg off the late night meeting on monday or not, if you haven't that is ok i will be working till 7 pm on tues but if you care to drop by let me know
jim
I used zip ties for control horns...works really well...

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Old Apr 06, 2008, 11:39 PM
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I just ordered a bunch from Tower that should be here tomorrow. I ran out also.

Ken
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