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Old Apr 26, 2007, 05:32 PM
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Comet Golden Eagle from 1938

Hi, Has anyone built this model at any scale for FF or R/C??
It was 45 inch span and I'm thinking of doing a 76 inch version with low wing, R/C and ailerons.
The wing can be parasol, shoulder or low on the plan.
Looks great on the plan.

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Old Apr 28, 2007, 12:26 PM
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Allan ditto I keep looking at my copy of that one........... I think we need to find an AMA/SAM member with a taste for sport designs.
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Old Apr 29, 2007, 05:09 PM
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I'll have a go at it as a low winger. It will have enough performance for competition here in NZ. We only have a 4 minute duration target off 25 seconds 4 stroke engine run. If it comes up a bit short I can always through a YS 63 at it. Shoulkd be at a 1000 feet in 25 seconds.

I really like the look of this one. Even that original colour scheme will look quite striking I think. I have a heap of yellow and blue Coverite, left over form a proposed glider project from 30 pears ago, that has that heavy weight tissue look. Will be OK with red paint for the trim.

Unfortunately I have to get on and bag 2 new tips for my sailplane before I can start else I will be short of a back up model for the coming season, trouble is I'd sooner be buiding the Eagle! How about G-EGLE for a registration and some scale detail.

I'm afraid I'm a sucker for these '30s sport models.

Attached is a recent in flight shot of my Lancer at our last Texaco A contest.
Looks much more interesting in the air than your average vintage pylon style model I think. The Golden Eagle will have the same sort of look but mores with a low wing and it's substantail fuselage.
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 08:06 AM
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Lets see if we can jog someones memory Allan.
Maybe its the Comet name that we should focusing on.
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 01:33 PM
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If anyone can e-mail me scans of the plans (300 dpi makes the best plans) I will rework the scans in Photoshop to assemble the scans, clean them up, and then make them available to everyone here.

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Old Apr 30, 2007, 05:20 PM
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Other US low wing designs from the 30s??

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Lets see if we can jog someones memory Allan.
Maybe its the Comet name that we should focusing on.
Yes, that's the model. I hadn't appreciated that it was a Goldberg design. It is very rare to get a low winger with a nice semi scale look from the 1930s. It should build to an impressive model at 76 inch span. The bulky fuselage and almost Tee tail will be very destinctive.
I took a look at the N22 wing section in Profilli and it is actually a good performer with plenty of lift and quite low higher speed drag as well. It actually has slight under camber but has been straight lined for building convenience on the plan. It will let the model trade height for distance when gliding back up wind unlike many vintage sections.

Does anyone know of any other low wingers from the 30s?? I guess there was the Cl. Bowden models but how about the US scene?

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Old May 04, 2007, 07:01 PM
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Alan Im going to try this over at the other place as well see if anyone can make a connection there.
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Old May 04, 2007, 08:38 PM
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Yes, that's the model. I hadn't appreciated that it was a Goldberg design. It is very rare to get a low winger with a nice semi scale look from the 1930s. It should build to an impressive model at 76 inch span. The bulky fuselage and almost Tee tail will be very destinctive.
I took a look at the N22 wing section in Profilli and it is actually a good performer with plenty of lift and quite low higher speed drag as well. It actually has slight under camber but has been straight lined for building convenience on the plan. It will let the model trade height for distance when gliding back up wind unlike many vintage sections.

Does anyone know of any other low wingers from the 30s?? I guess there was the Cl. Bowden models but how about the US scene?

Allan
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 12:18 PM
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I have the plan but it doesn't have all the fuselage formers. I have a small pattern sheet labeled #3. Is there a #4? I can fairly easily design formers that will be close, but an original would be better.

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Old Jun 16, 2008, 02:34 PM
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Panther II - Model Aviation

An RC version of the Peerless Panther appeared as a construction article in the December, 1979 issue of Model Aviation and the plan is available from the AMA Plans Service. Wingspan is 64" for a .25 engine. Two sizes of the original Panther (46" and 81") are available as plans or parts sets from http://www.klarichkits.com/

An electric power kit is available from http://www.bmjrmodels.com/ with a 40" wingspan.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 02:46 PM
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Just looking at the Golden Eagle, checked over at the SAM site, it and Trevor Boundy's site list the designer as Joe Konefes, same plane, Comet kit, low wing, near T-tail, wonder why the confusion with the designer? Doesn't really matter now, I guess, just think little mysteries like this is part of the fun of vintage modelling.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 10:18 PM
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I've got the plans somewhere. The Golden Eagle is a fantastic looker. Model Builder magazine had a picture of one years ago and I immediately added it to my Pond order going in at the time.

A double or even 1.5 times size bump would be amazingly attractive.

To all the Panther, Pacemaker and other low wing fans I'm sorry but none of them can hold a candle to the sexy lines of the Eagle. That little peak at the plans doesn't do it justice unless you can imagine it with the extra stringers that round out and blend the fuselage into the fin.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 10:29 PM
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Does anyone know of any other low wingers from the 30s?? I guess there was the Cl. Bowden models but how about the US scene?

Allan[/QUOTE]

Heres a scan from a ad in July 1934 Universal Model Airplane News for a sweet rubber job I have had my eye on for a couple years. It is on the SAM approved list (if that matters to ya, doesn`t mean squat to me) . It is only 24 inches in span.....but blow it up 3 times to 72 inches would be just right. It is the George D. Wanner and Company "Scarlet Tanager"

I wish it would scan better, turned out crappy, can`t even see the open cockpit behind the wing........nice looking ship if you like the golden age planes like I do.

Now who has plans they would sell me..? lol Chad.
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Old Jun 22, 2008, 12:36 AM
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If old timer authenticity doesn't mean much to you then why not just design your own version at the size you want that uses this picture as inspiration?

I like the looks of this enough to have done this little cad doodle. It's a bit more pudgy than the rubber model but I think it may give it a bit more of a 30's racer look.

What'cha think?
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Old Jun 22, 2008, 03:02 AM
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Darn you! I spent most of the last part of the evening fleshing out the Tanager Racer doodle....
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