HobbyKing.com New Products Flash Sale
Reply
Thread Tools
Old Apr 17, 2007, 09:05 AM
I Crash Things!!
romranger's Avatar
Euclid, Ohio
Joined Apr 2006
146 Posts
Build Log
My First Foam Scratch-Build "Wisdom"

Wanted a primary trainer since I killed my slow stick (twice!) and didn't want to pay the price of a new one. I took ideas from two plans, the STC trainer (which is a "flattie") and the STS Seaplane (which has a full fuse). I have resisted going to foam because (to my way of thinking), they just don't look enough like a "real" airplane to satisfy my imagination. Well, I have been won over! The pics have construction notes attached to them. Here's the specs:
Wingspan 40in
Wing Area: 280 sq in
Wing Loading: 8.23 oz in sq
All Up Weight: 16oz
Fuse Length: 30in
Airfoil: Kinda clark-y ish
Chinese Turbotrix Motor, about 80 watts or so
Castle Creations 10 esc
Batt: either a kokam 2s1p 1250 or a common sense rc 3s1p 1250

Material is Elmers Art board that can be had locally at JoAnn's for $1.97 a sheet. When the paper backing is removed, the foam is about 4mm. Final design can be built with two sheets. Paint is "Painters Choice" sun yellow latex acrylic. My weight budget was ok, so I experiemented with using several coats. Decorations are a combination of full sheet printed stickers and inkjet decals and good old "sharpie" art. Since all high-wing cabin planes look like a Cub to me, I added the "Cub" sticker to the tail. I would have added an "almost Cub" sticker, but I'm not talented enough to draw one. Maiden flight will be when the winds in Euclid drop below 8mph or so.

Depending on the maiden performance, I may add two CF rod struts to help support the wing or a second wing that is open and creased (like the slow stick wing) for more lift.

What do you think guys? This is what happens when I get cooped up with high winds and no extra money!
romranger is offline Find More Posts by romranger
Reply With Quote
Sign up now
to remove ads between posts
Old Apr 17, 2007, 10:06 AM
Registered User
critterhunter's Avatar
Joined Oct 2006
2,047 Posts
Good job! I've heard a lot of buzz about this plane in other forums.
critterhunter is offline Find More Posts by critterhunter
Reply With Quote
Old Apr 17, 2007, 11:28 AM
I Crash Things!!
romranger's Avatar
Euclid, Ohio
Joined Apr 2006
146 Posts
Thanks, critterhunter! I did have to resize the STS fuse and wing to fit the 20x30 foamboard, but much props to the original designer, Charles Pirkey.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372857
romranger is offline Find More Posts by romranger
Reply With Quote
Old Apr 17, 2007, 02:34 PM
Registered User
Joined May 2006
2,854 Posts
Well Critterhunter This is somewhat like the one I'm playing with.
Still waiting on the new hot glue gun. These babys will fly in a pretty good breese as the video's show.

romranger
Which EMax motor is that? I have 2 differant KV ones 2822 & 2212
Thinking about the 2212 so I can use a smaller prop. Like the stronger wing. I built a set somewhat like yours that will go on "something". I used a 1/2" wide piece of FFF for a spar. Keep us posted how your "Cub" flies.
nubee 1 is offline Find More Posts by nubee 1
Reply With Quote
Old Apr 17, 2007, 03:47 PM
I Crash Things!!
romranger's Avatar
Euclid, Ohio
Joined Apr 2006
146 Posts
It says CF2822. Static thrust of 11oz on 2cells and 18oz on three cells with eflite 11x4.7 prop and prop saver. I'm drawing a little over 7amps from the batt.
romranger is offline Find More Posts by romranger
Reply With Quote
Old Apr 17, 2007, 08:00 PM
Lazy dog
OhioPete's Avatar
Lakewood, Ohio
Joined May 2005
2,409 Posts
Looks nice, hope it flies well for you.
OhioPete is offline Find More Posts by OhioPete
Reply With Quote
Old Apr 17, 2007, 08:23 PM
Registered User
Joined May 2006
2,854 Posts
romranger
I have a liteweight Slow stick I have an EMax on and just wondering what it will do. Guess its time to finish the wing and give it a try.

Ken
nubee 1 is offline Find More Posts by nubee 1
Reply With Quote
Old Apr 17, 2007, 08:25 PM
Suspended Account
Mentor, OH
Joined Dec 2004
8,426 Posts
i like the logo on the rudder!
sgtdirt is offline Find More Posts by sgtdirt
Reply With Quote  (Disabled)
Old Apr 17, 2007, 09:23 PM
Speed Freak
Spid's Avatar
United States, OH, North Olmsted
Joined Nov 2005
1,311 Posts
Nice! Looks like you've got a "helper" checking things out in the one picture
Spid is offline Find More Posts by Spid
Reply With Quote
Old Apr 17, 2007, 10:25 PM
I Crash Things!!
romranger's Avatar
Euclid, Ohio
Joined Apr 2006
146 Posts
Yeah, that's my office manager, Cletus. This little black and white female cat follows me around the house just like a puppy! Interestingly enough, this was actually supposed to be my wife's cat. Go figure!!
romranger is offline Find More Posts by romranger
Reply With Quote
Old Apr 19, 2007, 06:39 AM
I Crash Things!!
romranger's Avatar
Euclid, Ohio
Joined Apr 2006
146 Posts
Wisdom did not fly well. The spreader bar on the landing gear broke on the first landing (should have soldered it instead of using thread and CA). Could not get the CG far enough forward for the kind of relaxing flight I want in a primary trainer due to the former and batt tray design. Strapped another battery outside on the nose using rubberbands and was able to trim it and flew down a battery. Adjusted computer endpoints to minimum and added lots of exponential and now flying ok, but winds came up quickly and had to quit. Wing is fine, but plane is now waaay too heavy for my purposes. Came home and did a rethink on the fuse. This is what I came up with: Coroplast from an old sign for tail feathers and a single hollow CF rod running fore and aft underneath the middle joiner. Rod end at tail with two 1/2 x 1/4 in balsa sticks, hollowed out and glued together around the rod. Stab mounts to top of resulting 1/2 x 1/2 square surface with the fin mounted on top of the stab. Moved fin forward to allow elevator to be one piece. Recut sides a full two inches shorter in height. Front of CF rod into 3/8 x 3/8 hardwood stick which will insert into a firewall sandwich made from the foam and two 1/32 in ply sheets. Upgraded motor to a eflite park 370. Preliminary balance looks good. Tail feathers are stable without using CF rods (and all that Gorilla glue). Will finish in a day or two.
romranger is offline Find More Posts by romranger
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Category Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Discussion Building my first foam plane, what's the best easy to build/fly? plue Beginner Training Area (Aircraft-Electric) 7 Jan 18, 2009 09:40 PM
Discussion My First F15 Scratch Build wls Pusher Prop Jet Models 8 May 27, 2006 12:42 PM
Formosa- My first foam build, just what I wanted! Newberry Parkflyers 10 Oct 12, 2003 03:29 AM
Need help building my first foam cut glider Steven9026 Electric Sailplanes 8 Nov 21, 2001 09:17 PM
My first Design Scratch Build Project Heather Electric Plane Talk 20 Jul 22, 2001 12:03 PM