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Old Apr 04, 2007, 02:58 AM
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Love the reaction by the UN Human Rights Commission President...

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These people are a farce. Time to pull our money out and let them play by themselves.
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 10:54 AM
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Typical reaction. If you can't or don't want to refute the message, slam the messenger. If you can't do that either, take issue with the tone of the message, call it īnappropriate" and ignore it on that basis. Our local politicians do that all the time whenever one of the so-called "populists" bring up an issue, valid or not.
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 10:58 AM
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DAve IS correct, however. The UN is a joke, and we'd be better off dropping them like a hot potato and send them packing to France where they can apply all the foolish resolutions they want.
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 11:01 AM
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Take this resolution, for example . . .
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 11:28 AM
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Interresting responce...

Isn't it interresting that the "President" responded not to the accusations, but against the accuser. He even struck the Human Rights Watch representitives comments from the record so he would not have to respond. Nice little diplomats that wouldn't want to offend any of the human rights poor countries serving on the commitee...

And as is normal with the UN resolutions - Israel is critisized for keeping watch on Hezbollah, and threatened by the French "Peace Keepers" while those UN Lapdogs on the Lebanon border REFUSE to carry out the recent UN resolution as it pertains to disarming Hezbollah. And Israel is still critisized for responding to a military action by Hezbollah that has as an end result - 2 Israeli soldier/hostages STILL not returned home.
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 11:43 AM
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DAve IS correct, however. The UN is a joke, and we'd be better off dropping them like a hot potato and send them packing to France where they can apply all the foolish resolutions they want.
I was referring to the UN dude's reaction of course, not Dave's comment.
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 11:47 AM
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Certainly there things about UN that could improve. But where is the US in terms of leading reform or alternatives? Is the Coalition of the Bribed, Coerced and Threatened who chose war in Iraq an example of your preferred alternative? No thanks.
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 07:29 PM
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The greatest failure of the UN is the silly notion that all nations should carry the same influence - have the same vote - as all other nations. For this reason alone, the UN will be an enemy of the US for as long as the US is powerful.
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 07:56 PM
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I agree that pure democracy is a poor format for much of the UN's business.
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 08:04 PM
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Pure Democracy

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I agree that pure democracy is a poor format for much of the UN's business.
Democracy is actually mob rule! 100 idiots vote for something, the one wise man who opposes it is shouted down, right?
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 08:28 PM
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Democracy is actually mob rule! 100 idiots vote for something, the one wise man who opposes it is shouted down, right?
Generaly, democracy is only better than the alternatives. There are exceptions, of course. Businesses run fine in the complete absence of democracy. Soldiers serve a democracy - not in a democracy.
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Old Apr 05, 2007, 06:10 AM
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Certainly there things about UN that could improve. But where is the US in terms of leading reform or alternatives? Is the Coalition of the Bribed, Coerced and Threatened who chose war in Iraq an example of your preferred alternative? No thanks.

We weren't the only ones bribing Greg.. Sometimes it's the only way to get wheels to spin. Nothing is new under the sun, and it was probably cheaper to do it that way anyway.
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Old Apr 05, 2007, 06:14 AM
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Bribery that doesn't get the desired results is hardly "cheap".
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Old Apr 05, 2007, 09:18 AM
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The U.S. tried recently to put someone in the U.N. to try and change it but the liberals rejected him, so were back to Israel-bashing business as usual.

Unfortunately we're going to need the UN as future administrations will no doubt be reluctant to send ground troops anywhere in the world as a result of the criticism of the Iraqi war. We should build up our stock of cruise missiles now as that will be the weapon of choice by the Clinton II administration.
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Old Apr 05, 2007, 09:41 AM
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BF: You can't tell me that the Israelis have gotten a fair shake in world view... Every year they lose more to terrorists than we did on 9/11. If you put that into context of population and then compare it to what we have done to end the War on Terror I think that the Israelis are seriously underrepresented in their response.

All you ever hear about is Israel killing Palestinian "civilians". They are all civilians when they drop their weapons, and they are definitely "civilians" when the Arabic press talks casualty counts.

Who mourns for Israel when a Homicide bomber walks into a pizzeria at lunchtime and kills mothers, grandmothers and babies?

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