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Old Jun 08, 2007, 11:24 PM
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Thanks, guys! I have to say though that I've been amply rewarded for my efforts sharing my plans in this forum. Here's an example. On the Su-37, the twin motors were given to me by LittleScreamers, the twin speed controls and Berg 7 receiver were given to me by Castle Creations (one of their employees built a couple of my part jets and sent me a box of speed controls and receivers to say thanks), and the foam was from a whole case given to me by 3DFoamy a while back. The only things I actually bought were the servos and the carbon spars. And the many PayPal donations I've received in the past couple years WAY more than paid for those. So building the Su-37 really didn't cost me a penny! I've been amazed at the generosity of my fellow hobbyists.

But money aside, the single biggest reason I've enjoyed sharing my plans is seeing all the pictures and hearing all the stories from the guys that have built them. Each story puts a new smile on my face!
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Old Jun 08, 2007, 11:26 PM
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Great to hear you'll be in MAN again Your SU-37 is beyond compare, and I feel that it will be even more popular than your F-14. However, one of the things that made your F-14 so easy to build, was the extensive parts list that was made for it, and the EDF version, too.
I'd like to see a simular parts list made for the SU-37, so everyone can spend more time building, instead of running off to the LHS every other day

Tom - Back in Milwaukee!!
Great idea on the parts list, Tom. I'll crank one out. Shouldn't take long at all.
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Old Jun 08, 2007, 11:28 PM
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Thanks guys! You did a very nice job on this jet Steve, can't wait to build it! For the 200%, do you have a guess on how much the AUW would be? I was thinking about 2 of these motors.... http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...84&pid=W815796 on 4S 9x7.5 props, 72A total, about 6lb thrust, 1060W total and pitch speed of 78mph.... what do you think? For the VT servos I was thinking these.... http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...90&pid=S629352 and the rest of the servos these... http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...83&pid=S544494 ESC's would be these.... http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...2&pid=B0558275 pack would be 4S 6000-8000mah? Any input would be great!
I'd like to be able to give you some advice on a 200% park jet, but I have zero experience there. Guys like LBMiller and JMorgan will probably be chock full of advice for you, though!
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Old Jun 08, 2007, 11:36 PM
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This will be my first big electric plane so I have no idea as well! Hope someone can point me in the right direction and help me pick what I need so I start the construction! I think I may start with the 175%!
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Old Jun 08, 2007, 11:55 PM
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A Good gauge is to figure Watt's per pound. A jet will fly "With Authority" at about 150 W/P and you need over 200 W/P for Aerobatic's (Read Unlimited Vertical) Infact I just found a good chart on Common Sense RC that should help for all types of planes.
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Old Jun 09, 2007, 10:13 AM
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"About 6lb thrust, 1060W total and pitch speed of 78mph" So at 5lb I would have 200w/lb.... at 6.5lb I would have 150w/lb.... I don't think I will want less then that. My quick calculation for the 175% SU-37 is 7lb... do you think it can be done at this weight or less? Let me see, here are some specs....

-Airframe
-2 Motors 320g
-2 ESC (I wonder if I should use 1 ESC and skip the yaw?) 60g
-TV servos 115g
-6 main servos at most 162g
-8000mah 4S-2P 704g
-RX 20g
-RX pack 105g

1486g, 52.32oz..... 3.27lb so far without the airfrme
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Old Jun 09, 2007, 10:15 AM
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Would it be better to start my own thread on this project or do you guys not mind it here?
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Old Jun 09, 2007, 01:45 PM
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Would it be better to start my own thread on this project or do you guys not mind it here?
they usually start a new thread for a XL sized jet. What type of foam are you using? The 1/2" Blue-cor sheets?

www.rcfoam.com sells 9mm Depron now, but that would only work for a 133% sized jet, switching 6mm for 9mm. Or you could take reg blue-cor and glue two sheets together.
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Old Jun 09, 2007, 02:34 PM
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For you large scale nutters, you might like this Flanker build log - http://www.su27.de/seite1.htm
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Old Jun 09, 2007, 03:15 PM
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Would it be better to start my own thread on this project or do you guys not mind it here?
Doesn't matter to me, but I think you'll get a better response if you start a new thread since like-minded folks will be able to find it easier.
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Old Jun 09, 2007, 05:23 PM
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For you large scale nutters, you might like this Flanker build log - http://www.su27.de/seite1.htm

Wow! What an awesome build!

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Old Jun 09, 2007, 06:10 PM
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Yeah it's pretty sweet alright. The English translation stops around page 50 unfortunately, but I guess the pics are enough. Check out the video he links to on the last page. Those engines sure sound good.
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Old Jun 09, 2007, 08:38 PM
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For you large scale nutters, you might like this Flanker build log - http://www.su27.de/seite1.htm
That is insane that would be The build of a lifetime for me, lol it would probably take me that long
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Old Jun 09, 2007, 08:40 PM
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Took that guy 6 years.
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Old Jun 09, 2007, 08:59 PM
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Took that guy 6 years.
It would take me that long just to do the rivits Well it looks like he's planning on making a bunch more with all those parts labeled with serial #'s
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