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Old Jun 25, 2012, 04:49 PM
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Good luck Wobisch! Keep thinking about weight and I need to make it light and you'll do fine! W
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Old Jun 27, 2012, 02:08 AM
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Did some progress with the built. Not yet sure which color scheme I shall take.
I will go with tailerons only, try to safe weight that's why I do not install ailerons.
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Old Jun 27, 2012, 01:52 PM
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Looking good Wobish. The original design calls for tailerons only and since you're implementing the TV you should be fine. Will you be doing rudders?

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Old Jun 28, 2012, 12:46 AM
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Should I install rudders? My Super Bandit does not have rudders. Mmmh, yes I think I do install them.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 09:57 AM
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Rudders have certainly helped me out a lot of times, especially when I'm slow flying.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 10:59 AM
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I've had two park jets that I initially built without rudders (including my Su-37) to save weight. They flew just fine that way, but I eventually retrofitted rudders into both because they are so nice to have for slow flying, for aerobatics, and for simply helping the model fly smoother. All depends on your preferences, though.
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Old Jul 03, 2012, 01:02 AM
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Is it love?

Steve, I love this project. This is the most beautiful bird I've done so far.
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Old Jul 03, 2012, 03:24 AM
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Brushless Motor

Shall I install 2x

A2208/9 13A 2200 KV
No. Of cells:2-3 Li-Poly, 6-8 Ni-Mh/Ni-Cd
RPM/V:2200 RMP/V
Max. efficiency:78%
Max. efficiency current:7-13A (>74%)
Current capacity:17A/60 s
Dimensions:24.63 x 28.24 mm
Shaft diameter: 3.17mm
Weight:36g /1.27 oz
Little brother of the 2212/6

or

2212-06 28A 2200KV
RPM per volt : 2200
No Load Current / 10V: 1.4A
Wire Winds / Turns: 12
Ni-Mh Battery: 6 - 10 cells
Li-Po Battery: 2 / 3 cells
Max efficiency current: 14~22 A (>75%)
Max efficiency: 72%
Max Current: 28A / 60 sec
Dimension: 27.5 x 30mm
Shaft: 3.17mm
Weight: 47g
Recommended Model Weight: 300 - 1000g (700g Heli)
Recommended Propeller without gearbox
3 cells Li-Po : 5.25" x 4.75"
2 cells Li-Po: 7" x 5"

What is your suggestion?
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Old Jul 03, 2012, 12:37 PM
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hey Wobisch your model is looking great. I'd go for selction number 2. Well that's what I plan on using anyhow. It should give you unlimited vertical along with lots of speed. I plan on useing 2 3x6x4.5 pusher and tractor props too. Dunno what that'll yield but we shall see.
S)O I have retired the first bird. Too much filler and not looking as pretty. Luckily a friend laser cut all the parts for me so I've alleviated that part of the build. At the moment I ham having a hard time programming my DX8 with all the mixes. Is there anyone on here who has done this successfully who could help me out here? I've tried following Steves mixes but I think our receivers are different and therefore channels are not corresponding. Big thanks in advance.

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Old Jul 03, 2012, 03:29 PM
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thanks again but i think i fund my answer. boy that search tool is handy.
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Looking impressive, Wobisch! Keep up the good work.

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Old Jul 04, 2012, 01:11 AM
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Looking great so far, Wobisch!
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Old Jul 06, 2012, 01:58 AM
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Looking impressive, Wobisch! Keep up the good work.

Bob, I just found your website and have seen your Vimeo Videos of the Super Flanker. I love it.
I have bought your App today.
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Old Jul 06, 2012, 02:09 AM
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update

I have installed the canards and shaped the form the 3rd day now. I am not yet happy, will have to shape again a little...
Additionally I have installed some Balsa at the leading edges of the wings and rudders.
Canopy is not selfmade, fits perfect. Now I have to build the pilot and the instruments.

The more I think over I realize that I do not love the fact of flying without ailerons. Well then, I will try to fly without them but I could use them as flaps? Does it make sence to have flaps?
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Old Jul 06, 2012, 06:51 AM
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I had ailerons/flaps on both of mine. I also had one that I got from cmala a couple of years ago that was built exactly from the kit/specs. Based solely on these three models, here's my opinion on the control surfaces. Please remember these are only my opinions and your mileage may vary.

Flaps: didn't like what they did when deployed. While they remained programed in my Tx, I never really used them beyond some initial testing.

Ailerons: Must have. Made a huge difference in performance compared to the stock build. Can you say "Flat Spin"?

Rudders: I had two models with and one without. Not worth the trouble to install.

I hope this helps...
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