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Old Apr 03, 2007, 01:11 PM
GordySoar@aol.com
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"Why oh Why don't they list the planes flown? Fresno Classic..for one"

Thanks Rcsoaring.com for posting the results, I see a lot of my soaring
buddies and names on the list, but most guys in the hobby won't ever meet Keith
or a McGowan, or even Mark Browning or Scotty Meader...but they see the names
over and over and wonder, what sailplanes are these guys choosing as their
contest weapons?

While I'll never have JW's talents or the talents of many of the guys
winning, I know that if I shovel enough snow in Orlando or cut enough lawns in the
Arctic, I'll sooner or later be able to afford the sailplanes they choose.

Better skills, more experience and results are the criteria 'I' use to plan
my next sailplane purchase, not goofy stuff like airfoil or weight....but
alas, CD's or impound guys seem to be unwilling to ask pilots to write their
models on the top of the score card or next to their names, instead of another
repetition of their illegible addresses.

So this time I'll guess :-)

JW flew a Supra, Keith Kindrick flew a Onyx JW, Edgar flew a Sharon, Bill
Malvey (sort of:-) flew a Sharon,
Bob McGowan flew a Falcon 600, and ????

Okay you guys, you didn't list your sailplanes at the event, so how about
listing them now? :-)
Gordy
New Orleans still



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Old Apr 03, 2007, 01:11 PM
James V. Bacus
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Re: "Why oh Why don't they list the planes flown?Fresno Classic..for one"

Easyglider...

At 10:44 AM 4/3/2007, GordySoar@aol.com wrote:
>I know that if I shovel enough snow in Orlando or cut enough lawns
>in the Arctic, I'll sooner or later be able to afford the sailplanes
>they choose.


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net

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Old Apr 03, 2007, 01:11 PM
Chuck Anderson
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Re: "Why oh Why don't they list the planes flown?Fresno Classic..for one"

Who cares? The models flown by most of the big name fliers won't do
me much good. Almost without exception, they are too stealthy and
unstable for me to fly out where the thermals are. I can probably do
better with my Sailaire because I can see it and it will fly it's
self long enough to find it again if I lose sight of it. What I need
is the visibility and stability of the Sailaire and the ability to
come home of the Subra.

Chuck

At 10:44 AM 4/3/2007, you wrote:
>Thanks Rcsoaring.com for posting the results, I see a lot of my
>soaring buddies and names on the list, but most guys in the hobby
>won't ever meet Keith or a McGowan, or even Mark Browning or Scotty
>Meader...but they see the names over and over and wonder, what
>sailplanes are these guys choosing as their contest weapons?
>
>While I'll never have JW's talents or the talents of many of the
>guys winning, I know that if I shovel enough snow in Orlando or cut
>enough lawns in the Arctic, I'll sooner or later be able to afford
>the sailplanes they choose.
>
>Better skills, more experience and results are the criteria 'I' use
>to plan my next sailplane purchase, not goofy stuff like airfoil or
>weight....but alas, CD's or impound guys seem to be unwilling to ask
>pilots to write their models on the top of the score card or next to
>their names, instead of another repetition of their illegible addresses.
>
>So this time I'll guess :-)
>
>JW flew a Supra, Keith Kindrick flew a Onyx JW, Edgar flew a Sharon,
>Bill Malvey (sort of:-) flew a Sharon,
>Bob McGowan flew a Falcon 600, and ????
>
>Okay you guys, you didn't list your sailplanes at the event, so how
>about listing them now? :-)
>Gordy
>New Orleans still
>
>
>
>
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 01:32 PM
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 03:11 PM
Andy Thonet
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RE: "Why oh Why don't they list the planes flown? Fresno Classic..for one"

Hey Gordy,



I flew my Sharon and AVA. Now why are you claiming to be poor and not have a
good TD ship? You have a Sharon and an AVA.



Had a great time as usual at the Fresno Classic and I'm looking forward to
next year!!! Put this one on your schedule for next year guys, You wont be
disappointed!!!!!



Andy

AKA "Glidernut"

Team SWSA







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From: GordySoar@aol.com [mailto:GordySoar@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:45 AM
To: Soaring@airage.com
Cc: soaring@louisvillesoaring.org
Subject: [RCSE] "Why oh Why don't they list the planes flown? Fresno
Classic..for one"



Thanks Rcsoaring.com for posting the results, I see a lot of my soaring
buddies and names on the list, but most guys in the hobby won't ever meet
Keith or a McGowan, or even Mark Browning or Scotty Meader...but they see
the names over and over and wonder, what sailplanes are these guys choosing
as their contest weapons?



While I'll never have JW's talents or the talents of many of the guys
winning, I know that if I shovel enough snow in Orlando or cut enough lawns
in the Arctic, I'll sooner or later be able to afford the sailplanes they
choose.



Better skills, more experience and results are the criteria 'I' use to plan
my next sailplane purchase, not goofy stuff like airfoil or weight....but
alas, CD's or impound guys seem to be unwilling to ask pilots to write their
models on the top of the score card or next to their names, instead of
another repetition of their illegible addresses.



So this time I'll guess :-)

JW flew a Supra, Keith Kindrick flew a Onyx JW, Edgar flew a Sharon, Bill
Malvey (sort of:-) flew a Sharon,

Bob McGowan flew a Falcon 600, and ????



Okay you guys, you didn't list your sailplanes at the event, so how about
listing them now? :-)
Gordy
New Orleans still





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Old Apr 03, 2007, 03:11 PM
George Voss
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RE: "Why oh Why don't they list the planes flown? Fresno Classic..for one"

Let's say the top 6 guys flew DAW TG-3 foamies. Would you run out and get
one? Why not? It's a plane that one a major contest with experienced
pilots.

The real question here is what do you fly? Joe and Daryl are going to beat
you any day of the week flying a DAW TG-3 foamy without landing control.
Why? Because they are that good that's why.

The rest of us need to take the time to learn the airplane we fly and know
exactly what it can do in virtually every condition until the plane and
pilot become one (no Zen comments please).

Back when the Falcon 880 and Lovesong were the hot ships, I got pretty good
with the Lovesong. Why? I flew the thing for 5 years, several times a month
in everything from early morning and late evening in relatively calm air and
at all hours during the day in winds up to 25. Now I'm not talking about
what most people call 25, but actual 25 mph winds. I got to know the plane
so well that I really didn't have to think about flying the plane anymore, I
just flew it. It became an extension of me.

I haven't had the chance to fly my Icon as much as that Lovesong but since I
have a huge amount of $ tied up in them, I'll keep them until they break.
Is the Sharon the best plane on the market, is the Icon, is whatever you are
flying? It depends on you the pilot. Like Chuck mentions, he can see his
Sailaire so he does well with it. If he can't see the plane he is limited
as to how far away he can fly it.

At the TNT last year, I headed to the winch for the third round. I would be
the only guy in the air and there was nothing else to find the lift for me.
I flew my Icon literally as far as I could safely fly it. It ended up WAY
up wind with no sign of any thermals. I worked my way back and ended up
with about 1/2 of the required time. About the only thing I could have done
differently was go in a different direction. The Icon did what it does
best, and that's travel without losing much altitude. My timer, Dave
Register was a huge help on that flight and gave me all of the info he could
regarding the air. There just wasn't any rising air on the path I chose.

When I landed we looked at each other and agreed I'd done all I could on
that flight. I couldn't have gone any farther up wind than I did and make
it back to the field. I had a couple of guys ask me if I saw the idiot that
flew almost half a mile upwind and made it back. I told them I was the
idiot and I still didn't find any air. They agreed that I did all I could.
Now, would a Sharon, Pike or any other plane have done any better in those
conditions? Nope. If you don't find a thermal, the plane is coming down no
matter what you do.

Know your plane, know the air, make a decision and go for it. Practice
until you know the plane inside and out and you can almost fly it with your
eyes open. That's what'll make you a better pilot.

gv



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