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patmat2350 · Feb 24, 2008, 10:00 AM

I thought I heard that the sticky-list could be easily cured with ventilation... one side would go down, and create a vacuum when it tried to rise?

patmat2350 · Feb 24, 2008, 10:08 AM

Memo to Self: Someday, get a Mt Washington and convert it to one of these early NY tugs.

P_J_Glor · Feb 24, 2008, 02:16 PM

Steamboatmodel: Did the swing arm version run ok on the straights too? I saw a swing arm rig in R/C Boat Modeler several years ago and have long considered that rig for one I have stashed away on the shelf. I have also wondered about using sintra for the uper levels under the plastic laminate to reduce the topsides weight of the model.

Pete G.

Aerominded · Feb 24, 2008, 02:39 PM

nice work H.Lauer! Looking forward to the water thawing out se we can see her sail!

H.Lauer · Feb 25, 2008, 03:54 AM

Thanks areo

There is a group of holes drilled in the fan pattern on both sides, should get rid of any suction problems, we'll see.... Can always "snap" the rudder to the other side. quick turn. Maybe Longbike can let us know how his works....Harry

H.Lauer · Mar 05, 2008, 06:16 AM

Oh Captain......

P_J_Glor · Mar 05, 2008, 06:45 PM

Wow! Given the historical period in which Mt Washington operated, you better get a Sheriff figure to meet her at the pier when the ship docks. It was frowned upon even to see a woman's ankle in those days, let alone what the "lady in the red dress" is showing off. She does spice things up...

As an aside, I was wondering what the throttle controls for the steam engine looked like in those days for purposes of pilot house detailing. Same as a conventional engine order telegraph for a propeller-driven steamship?

Pete G.

patmat2350 · Mar 05, 2008, 07:00 PM

More like this... Various pulls to ring bells in the engine room, and a voice tube.

From display at the Howard Steamboat Museum, across the way from Luh'vuhl.

Pat M

Aerominded · Mar 05, 2008, 07:01 PM

Careful, the captain may be too distracted to run the ship!!!

patmat2350 · Mar 05, 2008, 07:13 PM

Don't remember where I got it from, but I have a list of example bell signals:

Stop to slow ahead: 1 bell, 2 jingles
Stop to half ahead: 1 bell
Stop to full ahead: 1 bell, 1 jingle

Slow ahead to stop: 1 bell
Half ahead to stop: 1 bell
Full ahead to stop: 2 bells

Slow ahead to half ahead: 1 jingle, 1 bell
Half ahead to full ahead: 1 jingle

Stop to half astern: 2 bells
Half astern to stop: 1 bell
Half astern to full astern: 1 jingle

Full astern to stop: 1 bell
Astern to slow astern: 2 jingles
Full ahead to full astern: 4 bells, 1 jingle (or any series that sounds like PANIC)

So the same signal means different things depending on where you're starting from, and you better know where that is if you're the pilot!

I think the engine order telegraph must have dropped the collective blood pressures of a whole lot of pilots and engineers...

P_J_Glor · Mar 05, 2008, 10:51 PM

Thanks, Pat. So I guess a "dinger" operated by a momentary contact switch would be needed to be authentic when getting underway. Have you run into an engine bell among the synthesized sounds? I guess the model railroaders should have one. I bought a steam whistle for my kit, but an engine bell would definitely add interest.

Pete G

steamboatmodel · Mar 06, 2008, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P_J_Glor

Steamboatmodel: Did the swing arm version run ok on the straights too? I saw a swing arm rig in R/C Boat Modeler several years ago and have long considered that rig for one I have stashed away on the shelf. I have also wondered about using sintra for the uper levels under the plastic laminate to reduce the topsides weight of the model.

Pete G.

Hi Pete,
Sorry for the delay in replying. When Charles uses the swing arm it is on a proportional channel on the transmitter, thus when he makes a turn he moves the Arm in the opposite direction of the turn and then returns the Arm to neutral for straight running. He has got this down so pat that you don't even notice it.
Regards,
Gerald

P_J_Glor · Mar 06, 2008, 05:37 PM

Thanks. I think the setup I saw in RC Boat Medeler had the swing arm connected by a "Y" harness to the rudder servo, so the movement of both was sychronized. Glad to hear it works well.

Pete G.

frankg · Mar 06, 2008, 08:34 PM

HARRY- Your Mount Washington is one sweet job. I’ll bet you’re a chaffing at the bit to take her for her shake down cruise. With the working smoke stack and some steam whistle sound recordings you will have it made. By the way, I like your choice on the lady in the red dress. Adds a little excitement to the cruise, but wait! Was it a lady in a red dress that did in Dillinger?

P_J_Glor · Sep 02, 2011, 06:02 PM

Harry -- I re-discovered (with great pleasure) this thread while looking at your attachments in response to the Brooklyn tug review thread. Did you ever get her in the water? You were waiting for the snow to melt about the time you got her finished. Probably WAAAAY too much water up there now, after Irene.

Pete G.

Feb 24, 2008, 10:08 AM	#47
patmat2350 One apostrophe may be too many Motor City Joined Dec 2004 11,019 Posts	Memo to Self: Someday, get a Mt Washington and convert it to one of these early NY tugs. Images View all Images in thread Views: 182 Norwich, a pre-Civil War NY tug. From Mattson's "Tugboats of New York".

Feb 25, 2008, 03:54 AM	#50
H.Lauer Registered User Camden Maine Joined Feb 2005 839 Posts	Suction issues Thanks areo There is a group of holes drilled in the fan pattern on both sides, should get rid of any suction problems, we'll see.... Can always "snap" the rudder to the other side. quick turn. Maybe Longbike can let us know how his works....Harry

Mar 05, 2008, 06:16 AM	#51
H.Lauer Registered User Camden Maine Joined Feb 2005 839 Posts	Spicing up the deck..... Oh Captain...... Images View all Images in thread Views: 268 Hey big boy!

Mar 05, 2008, 07:00 PM	#53
patmat2350 One apostrophe may be too many Motor City Joined Dec 2004 11,019 Posts	More like this... Various pulls to ring bells in the engine room, and a voice tube. From display at the Howard Steamboat Museum, across the way from Luh'vuhl. Pat M Images View all Images in thread Views: 148

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Feb 24, 2008, 10:00 AM	#46
patmat2350 One apostrophe may be too many Motor City Joined Dec 2004 11,019 Posts	I thought I heard that the sticky-list could be easily cured with ventilation... one side would go down, and create a vacuum when it tried to rise?

Feb 24, 2008, 02:16 PM	#48
P_J_Glor Registered User Valencia, CA Joined Oct 2002 2,853 Posts	Steamboatmodel: Did the swing arm version run ok on the straights too? I saw a swing arm rig in R/C Boat Modeler several years ago and have long considered that rig for one I have stashed away on the shelf. I have also wondered about using sintra for the uper levels under the plastic laminate to reduce the topsides weight of the model. Pete G.

Feb 24, 2008, 02:39 PM	#49
Aerominded Registered User Monterey Bay California Joined Feb 2004 12,384 Posts	nice work H.Lauer! Looking forward to the water thawing out se we can see her sail!

Mar 05, 2008, 06:45 PM	#52
P_J_Glor Registered User Valencia, CA Joined Oct 2002 2,853 Posts	Wow! Given the historical period in which Mt Washington operated, you better get a Sheriff figure to meet her at the pier when the ship docks. It was frowned upon even to see a woman's ankle in those days, let alone what the "lady in the red dress" is showing off. She does spice things up... As an aside, I was wondering what the throttle controls for the steam engine looked like in those days for purposes of pilot house detailing. Same as a conventional engine order telegraph for a propeller-driven steamship? Pete G.

Mar 05, 2008, 07:01 PM	#54
Aerominded Registered User Monterey Bay California Joined Feb 2004 12,384 Posts	Careful, the captain may be too distracted to run the ship!!!

Mar 05, 2008, 07:13 PM	#55
patmat2350 One apostrophe may be too many Motor City Joined Dec 2004 11,019 Posts	Don't remember where I got it from, but I have a list of example bell signals: Stop to slow ahead: 1 bell, 2 jingles Stop to half ahead: 1 bell Stop to full ahead: 1 bell, 1 jingle Slow ahead to stop: 1 bell Half ahead to stop: 1 bell Full ahead to stop: 2 bells Slow ahead to half ahead: 1 jingle, 1 bell Half ahead to full ahead: 1 jingle Stop to half astern: 2 bells Half astern to stop: 1 bell Half astern to full astern: 1 jingle Full astern to stop: 1 bell Astern to slow astern: 2 jingles Full ahead to full astern: 4 bells, 1 jingle (or any series that sounds like PANIC) So the same signal means different things depending on where you're starting from, and you better know where that is if you're the pilot! I think the engine order telegraph must have dropped the collective blood pressures of a whole lot of pilots and engineers...

Mar 05, 2008, 10:51 PM	#56
P_J_Glor Registered User Valencia, CA Joined Oct 2002 2,853 Posts	Thanks, Pat. So I guess a "dinger" operated by a momentary contact switch would be needed to be authentic when getting underway. Have you run into an engine bell among the synthesized sounds? I guess the model railroaders should have one. I bought a steam whistle for my kit, but an engine bell would definitely add interest. Pete G

Mar 06, 2008, 05:37 PM	#58
P_J_Glor Registered User Valencia, CA Joined Oct 2002 2,853 Posts	Thanks. I think the setup I saw in RC Boat Medeler had the swing arm connected by a "Y" harness to the rudder servo, so the movement of both was sychronized. Glad to hear it works well. Pete G.

Mar 06, 2008, 08:34 PM	#59
frankg Registered User Joined Dec 2004 3,167 Posts	HARRY- Your Mount Washington is one sweet job. I’ll bet you’re a chaffing at the bit to take her for her shake down cruise. With the working smoke stack and some steam whistle sound recordings you will have it made. By the way, I like your choice on the lady in the red dress. Adds a little excitement to the cruise, but wait! Was it a lady in a red dress that did in Dillinger?

Sep 02, 2011, 06:02 PM	#60
P_J_Glor Registered User Valencia, CA Joined Oct 2002 2,853 Posts	Harry -- I re-discovered (with great pleasure) this thread while looking at your attachments in response to the Brooklyn tug review thread. Did you ever get her in the water? You were waiting for the snow to melt about the time you got her finished. Probably WAAAAY too much water up there now, after Irene. Pete G.