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Old Aug 06, 2008, 04:37 PM
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I didn't get a response to this when I brought it up a while back. What prop adapters are people using that work with the PZ spinner and non stock motors on the 190? I can't find any that have a long enough threaded shaft for it all to fit together.
I changed my motor to one of these and the spinner fits the threaded prop shaft perfectly.
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s..._(Eq:_AXi_2814
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Old Aug 08, 2008, 10:27 AM
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Great suggestion, but I already have two motors that are essentially just like that one.
Unfortunately, they didn't come with a prop adpter like that.
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 03:30 PM
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i have a kokam 1500mah 11.1v lipo, and a 25a ESC. Whats the best motor for this combination that is cheap from hobbycity? its going to be the power system for the FW-109
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 07:31 PM
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i have a kokam 1500mah 11.1v lipo, and a 25a ESC. Whats the best motor for this combination that is cheap from hobbycity? its going to be the power system for the FW-109
I have one of these http://www.unitedhobbies.com/unitedh...idProduct=6247 on the way for fitting to my GWS-190 using a GWS 10 x 6 X 3 blade propeller on three cells. Roger Lombard reports exelent results with this set up on his GWS-40 (rating No 9 on the web page) and the GWS-190 is lighter and a better flier.

I have tried this three blade propeller on both my GWS-190 and GWS-40 but it draws a lot of Amps so I am hoping for a lower Amp draw with the hexTronik DT750.

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Old Aug 11, 2008, 07:41 PM
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thanks for telling me the 109 is better. i was about to order a p-40!

how bout this one?

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...less_Outrunner

even though the 710kv one has 1000g thrust!
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 11:10 PM
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thanks for telling me the 109 is better. i was about to order one!

how bout this one?

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...less_Outrunner

even though the 710kv one has 1000g thrust!
The suggested propellers for the TURNIGY 28-30-azj are a bit too small for the GWS-190.

You will need a 9 or 10 inch diameter with a 6-8 inch pitch for the GWS-190 to get enough thrust and pitch speed. This size propeller will overheat the TURNIGY 28-30-azj motor.See the comment by Jari-Pekka Willman (No 17 on the web page)

"don't use 10x4,7 or bigger clo

I tried a gws 10x4,7 prop with this motor and fried it after 7 min of flight. I fly at 150ft and motors draws more amps if they are closer to sea level(air is thicker, more work to do to get the motor spinning -> draws more amps) If you are around 5000ft it will draw close to 15 amps. Now buying another one and propping down to 8x6 and trying the 9x4,7 as well."


Most of the comments apply to E3D models. These models use a lower pitch propeller and do not do a lot of flying at Wide Open Throttle. Warbirds do, so you will need a motor that will not overheat under these conditions.

In the around US$10-12 price range the Tower Pro 2515-8T Is rated for 10 x 6 to 12 x 5 propellers so I would think that it would be a better motor .

Ken
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 11:37 PM
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thanks for telling me the 109 is better. i was about to order one!
It's a 1-9-0..
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 08:14 AM
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It's a 1-9-0..
sorry i get them mixed up

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Old Aug 12, 2008, 08:52 AM
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think about it this way: the 109 came first, had less firepower, and was not as able to take abuse as the 190

so the 190 came second, had more firepower, and was sturdier.

also it was the ME109 / BF109 vs the FW190

Or you could just spend a ton a time reading about the WW2 planes and get all you need to know from that.

Now what model flies better well that hard to say unles you own them all. I have the 190 and it flies great!!!! I've also heard the GWS T-6 was good as well but I have yet to build that kit and I have no idea about the P-40.
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 08:57 AM
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think about it this way: the 109 came first, had less firepower, and was not as able to take abuse as the 190

so the 190 came second, had more firepower, and was sturdier.

also it was the ME109 / BF109 vs the FW190

Or you could just spend a ton a time reading about the WW2 planes and get all you need to know from that.

Now what model flies better well that hard to say unles you own them all. I have the 190 and it flies great!!!! I've also heard the GWS T-6 was good as well but I have yet to build that kit and I have no idea about the P-40.
im not too bad on history about ww2 planes? 1/3 the books in my dads book shelves (he has about alot!) are about ww2 fighters and bombers. When they have an episode of dogfights or just plain history im always there. And i have flown both in il2 1946 online. Yes, the 190 is faster and more agile but the 109 had more firepower with those MK 108 cannons
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 10:56 AM
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GWS FW190 with GWS BL3008 equipped with EP1060HD prop already make her able to vertical take off by hand lunch!

Just saw one flyer bought one from GWS China shop and tested!

May be we should ship the kits with BL motor and ESC plus Li-Po pack at combo deal for lonely birds who can't get GWS supplied in their country?
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 11:24 AM
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This pack of combo special should be also considered to apply on P40 and many other GWS War Birds!
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 03:12 PM
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im not too bad on history about ww2 planes? 1/3 the books in my dads book shelves (he has about alot!) are about ww2 fighters and bombers. When they have an episode of dogfights or just plain history im always there. And i have flown both in il2 1946 online. Yes, the 190 is faster and more agile but the 109 had more firepower with those MK 108 cannons
The FW 190 had MK 108 30mm cannon as well. The Bf 109 had a cannon firing through the spinner but pilots very seldom used it because it filled the cockpit with cordite fumes.
The MK 108 was preferred by the RLM because it was made from pressed steel and needed no machine tools in its manufacture. With so much "slave" labour employed there was inevitably a lot of saboutage in machine shops. The 190 was used to break up large "virmot" [4 engined bomber] formations but they had to employ so much armour that they required Bf109's as Top Cover.
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 10:40 PM
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this will be my paint scheme! i just bought a different TX just to have retracts on this baby! W0000000T!!!

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Old Aug 12, 2008, 11:03 PM
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this will be my paint scheme! i just bought a different TX just to have retracts on this baby! W0000000T!!!

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Here is the Butcher Bird head and swastica. Print them out on paper first to try for size as shown in photo No 2. Then print it on white sticky backed plastic film. I use Photo Impressions to print out as that program allows me to adjust the size of the printout.

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