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Old Feb 05, 2007, 10:11 PM
Robert Reynolds
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Re: Build, Build, Build.

Morgans wrote:
>
> "Ed Forsythe" <EdForsythe@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>> Jim,
>> I think the senior Telemaster will handle the load. Use the KISS
>> theory and strap it to the top of the wing. Easy to change when you're
>> experimenting.

>
> Naah. You're missing half the point.
>
> To me, building is way more than half the fun. I find the process of
> designing, trying, and improving the design to be greatly satisfying.
>
> I want to have a somewhat sleek design, that will fly some useful
> missions, but to achieve greatness in it's complexity and functionality,
> but all done with the minimum of store bought components, and cost.
>
> The goal ultimately, is to be able to fly as a virtual airplane, with
> the ability to look to the side with the camera, then fly over there, if
> wanted. Using the video, one could then get the area of interest lined
> up and snap a picture.
>
> Just a frustrated engineer/ designer, I guess! <g>


About 15 years ago in the early days of consumer micro TV transmitters
RCM did an article about a guy who used to fly a plane by watching a
cockpit view on a TV inside a closed tent. He would fly the plane over
a radius of a couple of miles, then make his way back to the RC field
and land.

Shortly after that, the guys at Mike's Hobbies in Dallas put a TV camera
on top of a trainer so it had a forward view, including the engine and
fuel lines sticking up. They used to run a tape in the store where Bill
was seen starting the engine and stepping away, then the fuel lines
would blow backwards a few times as they ran the engine up. Then the
plane started going down the runway, took off, flew for about 30
seconds, and crashed next to a tree. It was quite a majestic milestone
of RC adventure in its day. I never did find out if they were flying
the plane by TV screen or direct view...
Old Feb 06, 2007, 12:11 AM
Ed Forsythe
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Sounds great M - Have fun and keep us posted :{)
"Morgans" <jessmorgan@charter.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Ed Forsythe" <EdForsythe@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>> Jim,
>> I think the senior Telemaster will handle the load. Use the KISS theory
>> and strap it to the top of the wing. Easy to change when you're
>> experimenting.

>
> Naah. You're missing half the point.
>
> To me, building is way more than half the fun. I find the process of
> designing, trying, and improving the design to be greatly satisfying.
>
> I want to have a somewhat sleek design, that will fly some useful
> missions, but to achieve greatness in it's complexity and functionality,
> but all done with the minimum of store bought components, and cost.
>
> The goal ultimately, is to be able to fly as a virtual airplane, with the
> ability to look to the side with the camera, then fly over there, if
> wanted. Using the video, one could then get the area of interest lined up
> and snap a picture.
>
> Just a frustrated engineer/ designer, I guess! <g>
> --
> Jim in NC



Old Feb 06, 2007, 12:11 AM
M-M
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Re: Build, Build, Build.

In article <NIQxh.44$O_5.31@newsfe03.lga>,
"Morgans" <jessmorgan@charter.net> wrote:

> The goal ultimately, is to be able to fly as a virtual airplane, with the
> ability to look to the side with the camera, then fly over there, if wanted.
> Using the video, one could then get the area of interest lined up and snap a
> picture.



How about this:

"A Canadian RC airplane enthusiast shows us some sweet unanticipated
convergence between a model RC airplane and virtual reality gear. It
works like this: The airplane is a conventional one, controlled by a
wireless remote control. On the airplane is a pan-and-tilt camera,
controlled also wirelessly. Here's the cool part. The video is viewable
through virtual reality goggles, which have a gyroscope built in to
sense the movement of the goggles. When the wearer moves his head, the
camera moves. Tragically, this is not a product you can buy, but a DIY
project"

http://www.therawfeed.com/2006/09/vr...-coolest-toy.h
tml

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m-m
Old Feb 06, 2007, 12:11 AM
Morgans
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"Robert Reynolds" <robbie@kcnet.com> wrote

> Shortly after that, the guys at Mike's Hobbies in Dallas put a TV camera
> on top of a trainer so it had a forward view, including the engine and
> fuel lines sticking up. They used to run a tape in the store where Bill
> was seen starting the engine and stepping away, then the fuel lines would
> blow backwards a few times as they ran the engine up. Then the plane
> started going down the runway, took off, flew for about 30 seconds, and
> crashed next to a tree. It was quite a majestic milestone of RC adventure
> in its day. I never did find out if they were flying the plane by TV
> screen or direct view...


Great story.

I should have added that I will not be flying out of sight of the plane, and
can take over control from the ground visual at any time.

I don't plan on getting as bold as to conduct landings and take-offs from TV
view only.
--
Jim in NC

Old Feb 06, 2007, 06:11 AM
IFLYJ3
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Re: Build, Build, Build.

>
> So, give me your thoughts on my plans, and plop your plans out on

the table,
> for us to kick around!
> --
> Jim in NC


I did my first down-linked video plane in 1996. Go to to this web site
and see the video that was taken of me in 2000. http://www.mudduckaviation.com/Videos.htm
See "down-linked Video Mud Duck" at the bottom of the page. This story
was done for the Louisville Fox station.

Old Feb 06, 2007, 10:11 PM
Morgans
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"M-M" <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote

> How about this:
>
> "A Canadian RC airplane enthusiast shows us some sweet unanticipated
> convergence between a model RC airplane and virtual reality gear. It
> works like this: The airplane is a conventional one, controlled by a
> wireless remote control. On the airplane is a pan-and-tilt camera,
> controlled also wirelessly. Here's the cool part. The video is viewable
> through virtual reality goggles, which have a gyroscope built in to
> sense the movement of the goggles. When the wearer moves his head, the
> camera moves. Tragically, this is not a product you can buy, but a DIY
> project"
>

<
http://www.therawfeed.com/2006/09/vr-gear-makes-rc-airplane-coolest-toy.html>

Yep. That is the idea. The gyro and goggles are one step more than I will
take it, but I want to add a still camera, and go bigger. An airspeed would
be a nice touch, too.
--
Jim in NC

Old Feb 07, 2007, 10:11 PM
Six_O'Clock_High
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"Robert Reynolds" <robbie@kcnet.com> wrote in message
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> Morgans wrote:
>>
>> "Ed Forsythe" <EdForsythe@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> Jim,
>>> I think the senior Telemaster will handle the load. Use the KISS theory
>>> and strap it to the top of the wing. Easy to change when you're
>>> experimenting.

>>
>> Naah. You're missing half the point.
>>
>> To me, building is way more than half the fun. I find the process of
>> designing, trying, and improving the design to be greatly satisfying.
>>
>> I want to have a somewhat sleek design, that will fly some useful
>> missions, but to achieve greatness in it's complexity and functionality,
>> but all done with the minimum of store bought components, and cost.
>>
>> The goal ultimately, is to be able to fly as a virtual airplane, with the
>> ability to look to the side with the camera, then fly over there, if
>> wanted. Using the video, one could then get the area of interest lined up
>> and snap a picture.
>>
>> Just a frustrated engineer/ designer, I guess! <g>

>
> About 15 years ago in the early days of consumer micro TV transmitters RCM
> did an article about a guy who used to fly a plane by watching a cockpit
> view on a TV inside a closed tent. He would fly the plane over a radius
> of a couple of miles, then make his way back to the RC field and land.
>
> Shortly after that, the guys at Mike's Hobbies in Dallas put a TV camera
> on top of a trainer so it had a forward view, including the engine and
> fuel lines sticking up. They used to run a tape in the store where Bill
> was seen starting the engine and stepping away, then the fuel lines would
> blow backwards a few times as they ran the engine up. Then the plane
> started going down the runway, took off, flew for about 30 seconds, and
> crashed next to a tree. It was quite a majestic milestone of RC adventure
> in its day. I never did find out if they were flying the plane by TV
> screen or direct view...


Somewhere there is a video taken from a plane I was flying a couple of years
ago. Fairly good pictures right up until the radio failed. You get to see
the flight view including the vertical impact.

OBTW, it was a bird built from a Telemaster wing.


 


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