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Old Feb 04, 2007, 02:11 PM
Doc Ferguson
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Build, Build, Build.

Now is the time to build and build to your hearts content. Or should
I say that this is saying
in the northern states. With a windchill of 30below I can't think of
a better hobby to get into or
check it out. Time flies and spring will come soon enough. Then its
payoff time to show off what you built and how well it will fly.
Sure a guy could go out ice fishing, but there is frozen fish in the
grocery stores and they are warm like my shop. OK, which one do I
build first. Sometimes I might be working on a couple of static
models and an RC at the same time. Thats OK since glue needs to set,
parts need sanding, others covering. Enjoy old man winter and think
of nice warm breezes and that new plane up in the sky.
Doc Ferguson

Old Feb 04, 2007, 04:11 PM
Morgans
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Re: Build, Build, Build.


"Doc Ferguson" <docferg@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Now is the time to build and build to your hearts content. Or should
> I say that this is saying
> in the northern states. With a windchill of 30below I can't think of
> a better hobby to get into or
> check it out. Time flies and spring will come soon enough. Then its
> payoff time to show off what you built and how well it will fly.
> Sure a guy could go out ice fishing, but there is frozen fish in the
> grocery stores and they are warm like my shop. OK, which one do I
> build first. Sometimes I might be working on a couple of static
> models and an RC at the same time. Thats OK since glue needs to set,
> parts need sanding, others covering. Enjoy old man winter and think
> of nice warm breezes and that new plane up in the sky.


Here in NC, there is almost always a weekend or two per month (all winter
long) that the weather will allow flying, without undue misery. Still, most
days the cold combined with the early darkness, makes for better building
than flying.

Yep, time to find the surface of my "workbench" so I can get something
started.

I've been thinking of starting something completely different from anything
I have done in the past.

I see all of the videos that have these flying hydroplane boat/plane
contraptions. I like to build stuff with the "T-Lar engineering," (that
looks about right) <g> and I have been thinking about building something
like that, only for .40 glow power.

I notice that all of them I have come across use electric-LiPo power, and
are very light, and pretty small. The question that I have not settled in
my mind, is what would the dimensions have to be, for one of these to work
with a .40 engine?

Any guesses? How about material? Use the thin fan-fold foam, or use
posterboard, or even balsa and plywood, or something else I have not
considered?

Of course, part of the fun is trying to do it for practically free, mostly
from stuff sitting around the shop.

What say ye? Anyone ever kick that idea around?

I'm sure that I am not the only one to think along these lines! <g>

I also got a mini color TV camera an 2.4 gig transmitter that needs a home.
I'm thinking big size, with a Ryobi weedeater (31cc I think) with a possible
electric start, so I can shut down and restart in the air for perfect,
vibration free still pictures, at the same time. Of course, it would be
nice for the cameras to mounted on a ground controllable gimbal, to get left
and right, and up and down movement.

I think the best platform would be a high or shoulder wing design, with twin
tail booms and a pusher engine layout, to leave the whole nose with a clear
globe for the cameras to look through.

Anyone got some thoughts on that? Also, any recommendations for a pusher
prop, of around 18 x 6-10, or possibly 16 x 10, or even 20 x 4, or 3/1/2?

I have not flown, or even started this motor, after I converted it around 8
years ago. Health issues, and now I'm trying to get back into the air
regularly, again.

Not too ambitious, I hope, but I know it is. <g> OK, how about a hand
launched glider? ;-)

So, give me your thoughts on my plans, and plop your plans out on the table,
for us to kick around!
--
Jim in NC

Old Feb 04, 2007, 06:11 PM
Doc Ferguson
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Re: Build, Build, Build.

On Feb 4, 2:54 pm, "Morgans" <jessmor...@charter.net> wrote:
> "Doc Ferguson" <docf...@charter.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1170613183.258787.261560@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > Now is the time to build and build to your hearts content. Or should
> > I say that this is saying
> > in the northern states. With a windchill of 30below I can't think of
> > a better hobby to get into or
> > check it out. Time flies and spring will come soon enough. Then its
> > payoff time to show off what you built and how well it will fly.
> > Sure a guy could go out ice fishing, but there is frozen fish in the
> > grocery stores and they are warm like my shop. OK, which one do I
> > build first. Sometimes I might be working on a couple of static
> > models and an RC at the same time. Thats OK since glue needs to set,
> > parts need sanding, others covering. Enjoy old man winter and think
> > of nice warm breezes and that new plane up in the sky.

>
> Here in NC, there is almost always a weekend or two per month (all winter
> long) that the weather will allow flying, without undue misery. Still, most
> days the cold combined with the early darkness, makes for better building
> than flying.
>
> Yep, time to find the surface of my "workbench" so I can get something
> started.
>
> I've been thinking of starting something completely different from anything
> I have done in the past.
>
> I see all of the videos that have these flying hydroplane boat/plane
> contraptions. I like to build stuff with the "T-Lar engineering," (that
> looks about right) <g> and I have been thinking about building something
> like that, only for .40 glow power.
>
> I notice that all of them I have come across use electric-LiPo power, and
> are very light, and pretty small. The question that I have not settled in
> my mind, is what would the dimensions have to be, for one of these to work
> with a .40 engine?
>
> Any guesses? How about material? Use the thin fan-fold foam, or use
> posterboard, or even balsa and plywood, or something else I have not
> considered?
>
> Of course, part of the fun is trying to do it for practically free, mostly
> from stuff sitting around the shop.
>
> What say ye? Anyone ever kick that idea around?
>
> I'm sure that I am not the only one to think along these lines! <g>
>
> I also got a mini color TV camera an 2.4 gig transmitter that needs a home.
> I'm thinking big size, with a Ryobi weedeater (31cc I think) with a possible
> electric start, so I can shut down and restart in the air for perfect,
> vibration free still pictures, at the same time. Of course, it would be
> nice for the cameras to mounted on a ground controllable gimbal, to get left
> and right, and up and down movement.
>
> I think the best platform would be a high or shoulder wing design, with twin
> tail booms and a pusher engine layout, to leave the whole nose with a clear
> globe for the cameras to look through.
>
> Anyone got some thoughts on that? Also, any recommendations for a pusher
> prop, of around 18 x 6-10, or possibly 16 x 10, or even 20 x 4, or 3/1/2?
>
> I have not flown, or even started this motor, after I converted it around 8
> years ago. Health issues, and now I'm trying to get back into the air
> regularly, again.
>
> Not too ambitious, I hope, but I know it is. <g> OK, how about a hand
> launched glider? ;-)
>
> So, give me your thoughts on my plans, and plop your plans out on the table,
> for us to kick around!
> --
> Jim in NC


Jim in NC
Go for the Senior Telemaster. They do have one with a twelve foot
wing span. The senior telemaster is big enough to house your camera.
No small parts to play with. A 90 would power the big one. Have fun
and have the biggest plane in your club.
Doc Ferguson

Old Feb 04, 2007, 08:11 PM
MK
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Re: Build, Build, Build.


"Doc Ferguson" <docferg@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1170613183.258787.261560@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Now is the time to build and build to your hearts content. Or should
> I say that this is saying
> in the northern states. With a windchill of 30below I can't think of
> a better hobby to get into or
> check it out. Time flies and spring will come soon enough. Then its
> payoff time to show off what you built and how well it will fly.
> Sure a guy could go out ice fishing, but there is frozen fish in the
> grocery stores and they are warm like my shop. OK, which one do I
> build first. Sometimes I might be working on a couple of static
> models and an RC at the same time. Thats OK since glue needs to set,
> parts need sanding, others covering. Enjoy old man winter and think
> of nice warm breezes and that new plane up in the sky.
> Doc Ferguson



Here's a few pics from today(feb 4th 07) at the field in Hico Tx.
mk

http://users.htcomp.net/kolo/feb0407.htm



Old Feb 04, 2007, 08:32 PM
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Hello from Stephenville tx

Great pics, do you go to Stephenville for parts ?
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Old Feb 04, 2007, 10:11 PM
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Re: Build, Build, Build.


"Morgans" <jessmorgan@charter.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Doc Ferguson" <docferg@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:1170613183.258787.261560@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> Now is the time to build and build to your hearts content. Or should
>> I say that this is saying
>> in the northern states. With a windchill of 30below I can't think of
>> a better hobby to get into or
>> check it out. Time flies and spring will come soon enough. Then its
>> payoff time to show off what you built and how well it will fly.
>> Sure a guy could go out ice fishing, but there is frozen fish in the
>> grocery stores and they are warm like my shop. OK, which one do I
>> build first. Sometimes I might be working on a couple of static
>> models and an RC at the same time. Thats OK since glue needs to set,
>> parts need sanding, others covering. Enjoy old man winter and think
>> of nice warm breezes and that new plane up in the sky.

>
> Here in NC, there is almost always a weekend or two per month (all winter
> long) that the weather will allow flying, without undue misery. Still,
> most days the cold combined with the early darkness, makes for better
> building than flying.
>
> Yep, time to find the surface of my "workbench" so I can get something
> started.
>
> I've been thinking of starting something completely different from
> anything I have done in the past.
>
> I see all of the videos that have these flying hydroplane boat/plane
> contraptions. I like to build stuff with the "T-Lar engineering," (that
> looks about right) <g> and I have been thinking about building something
> like that, only for .40 glow power.
>
> I notice that all of them I have come across use electric-LiPo power, and
> are very light, and pretty small. The question that I have not settled in
> my mind, is what would the dimensions have to be, for one of these to work
> with a .40 engine?
>
> Any guesses? How about material? Use the thin fan-fold foam, or use
> posterboard, or even balsa and plywood, or something else I have not
> considered?
>
> Of course, part of the fun is trying to do it for practically free, mostly
> from stuff sitting around the shop.
>
> What say ye? Anyone ever kick that idea around?
>
> I'm sure that I am not the only one to think along these lines! <g>
>
> I also got a mini color TV camera an 2.4 gig transmitter that needs a
> home. I'm thinking big size, with a Ryobi weedeater (31cc I think) with a
> possible electric start, so I can shut down and restart in the air for
> perfect, vibration free still pictures, at the same time. Of course, it
> would be nice for the cameras to mounted on a ground controllable gimbal,
> to get left and right, and up and down movement.
>
> I think the best platform would be a high or shoulder wing design, with
> twin tail booms and a pusher engine layout, to leave the whole nose with a
> clear globe for the cameras to look through.
>
> Anyone got some thoughts on that? Also, any recommendations for a pusher
> prop, of around 18 x 6-10, or possibly 16 x 10, or even 20 x 4, or 3/1/2?
>
> I have not flown, or even started this motor, after I converted it around
> 8 years ago. Health issues, and now I'm trying to get back into the air
> regularly, again.
>
> Not too ambitious, I hope, but I know it is. <g> OK, how about a hand
> launched glider? ;-)
>
> So, give me your thoughts on my plans, and plop your plans out on the
> table, for us to kick around!
> --
> Jim in NC


The electric start is not needed. A well cushioned mount will give you
pretty good pictures. If you really need totally vibration free to get high
enough quality pictures, you may be flying too high and in violation of some
airspace agreements somewhere. hint hint


Old Feb 05, 2007, 12:11 AM
MK
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Re: Build, Build, Build.

Yes I do. And if you happen to be near you can fly indoors with us Wed
night in Hico. I'll bet that James from the hobby shop will be there too.
mk

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> Great pics, do you go to Stephenville for parts ?
>
>
> --
> korgroth
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Old Feb 05, 2007, 10:11 AM
Fubar of The HillPeople
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Re: Build, Build, Build.

Stepped on a sheet of ice back on the 14th of last month and developed a
nice set of spiral fractures in both the fibula and tibula resulting in my
very own titanium rod and a set of screws to match.
Got time and then some for building right now but getting down the stairs to
the garage is a major undertaking and standing at a work bench is out of the
question.
Huge stack of unbuilt kits and partials and I cant access any of em.
Goin stir crazy as a result...


--
Dan
AMA605992
KE6ERB
http://www.fubar1.net
"I've heard the screams of the vegetables..."
Take out the "trash" to reply
"Doc Ferguson" <docferg@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Now is the time to build and build to your hearts content. Or should
> I say that this is saying
> in the northern states. With a windchill of 30below I can't think of
> a better hobby to get into or
> check it out. Time flies and spring will come soon enough. Then its
> payoff time to show off what you built and how well it will fly.
> Sure a guy could go out ice fishing, but there is frozen fish in the
> grocery stores and they are warm like my shop. OK, which one do I
> build first. Sometimes I might be working on a couple of static
> models and an RC at the same time. Thats OK since glue needs to set,
> parts need sanding, others covering. Enjoy old man winter and think
> of nice warm breezes and that new plane up in the sky.
> Doc Ferguson
>



Old Feb 05, 2007, 12:11 PM
MK
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Re: Build, Build, Build.


"Fubar of The HillPeople" <fubar1@trashsocal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Stepped on a sheet of ice back on the 14th of last month and developed a
> nice set of spiral fractures in both the fibula and tibula resulting in my
> very own titanium rod and a set of screws to match.
> Got time and then some for building right now but getting down the stairs
> to the garage is a major undertaking and standing at a work bench is out
> of the question.
> Huge stack of unbuilt kits and partials and I cant access any of em.
> Goin stir crazy as a result...
>
>
> --
> Dan
> AMA605992
> KE6ERB
> http://www.fubar1.net


Sorry to hear. If you haven't got a simulator it might be time to getr one.
mk


Old Feb 05, 2007, 02:11 PM
Doug McLaren
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Re: Build, Build, Build.

In article <1170613183.258787.261560@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
Doc Ferguson <docferg@charter.net> wrote:

| Now is the time to build and build to your hearts content. Or
| should I say that this is saying in the northern states.

Now is the time to go fly!

At least that's what we're saying in Texas. Here in Austin, looks
like it's about 60 degrees, mostly sunny, and about 5 mph winds. In
fact, it looks so nice, I think I'm going to go fly during my lunch
break!

Of course, in July, the tables will turn. We'll still be flying, but
we'll be doing so in the 100 degree heat, loaded up with hats,
sunscreen and lots of water (if we're smart.)

--
Doug McLaren, dougmc@frenzied.us
I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
Old Feb 05, 2007, 04:11 PM
Robert Reynolds
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Re: Build, Build, Build.

Fubar of The HillPeople wrote:
> Stepped on a sheet of ice back on the 14th of last month and developed a
> nice set of spiral fractures in both the fibula and tibula resulting in my
> very own titanium rod and a set of screws to match.
> Got time and then some for building right now but getting down the stairs to
> the garage is a major undertaking and standing at a work bench is out of the
> question.
> Huge stack of unbuilt kits and partials and I cant access any of em.
> Goin stir crazy as a result...
>
>


If your workbench is the proper height for standing, you need a stool to
sit on.
Old Feb 05, 2007, 08:11 PM
Ed Forsythe
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Re: Build, Build, Build.

You've got it right Doc -

"Doc Ferguson" <docferg@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1170613183.258787.261560@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Now is the time to build and build to your hearts content. Or should
> I say that this is saying
> in the northern states. With a windchill of 30below I can't think of
> a better hobby to get into or
> check it out. Time flies and spring will come soon enough. Then its
> payoff time to show off what you built and how well it will fly.
> Sure a guy could go out ice fishing, but there is frozen fish in the
> grocery stores and they are warm like my shop. OK, which one do I
> build first. Sometimes I might be working on a couple of static
> models and an RC at the same time. Thats OK since glue needs to set,
> parts need sanding, others covering. Enjoy old man winter and think
> of nice warm breezes and that new plane up in the sky.
> Doc Ferguson
>



Old Feb 05, 2007, 08:11 PM
Ed Forsythe
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Re: Build, Build, Build.

Jim,
I think the senior Telemaster will handle the load. Use the KISS theory and
strap it to the top of the wing. Easy to change when you're experimenting.
"Morgans" <jessmorgan@charter.net> wrote in message
news:wKrxh.56$dv6.15@newsfe02.lga...
>
> "Doc Ferguson" <docferg@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:1170613183.258787.261560@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> Now is the time to build and build to your hearts content. Or should
>> I say that this is saying
>> in the northern states. With a windchill of 30below I can't think of
>> a better hobby to get into or
>> check it out. Time flies and spring will come soon enough. Then its
>> payoff time to show off what you built and how well it will fly.
>> Sure a guy could go out ice fishing, but there is frozen fish in the
>> grocery stores and they are warm like my shop. OK, which one do I
>> build first. Sometimes I might be working on a couple of static
>> models and an RC at the same time. Thats OK since glue needs to set,
>> parts need sanding, others covering. Enjoy old man winter and think
>> of nice warm breezes and that new plane up in the sky.

>
> Here in NC, there is almost always a weekend or two per month (all winter
> long) that the weather will allow flying, without undue misery. Still,
> most days the cold combined with the early darkness, makes for better
> building than flying.
>
> Yep, time to find the surface of my "workbench" so I can get something
> started.
>
> I've been thinking of starting something completely different from
> anything I have done in the past.
>
> I see all of the videos that have these flying hydroplane boat/plane
> contraptions. I like to build stuff with the "T-Lar engineering," (that
> looks about right) <g> and I have been thinking about building something
> like that, only for .40 glow power.
>
> I notice that all of them I have come across use electric-LiPo power, and
> are very light, and pretty small. The question that I have not settled in
> my mind, is what would the dimensions have to be, for one of these to work
> with a .40 engine?
>
> Any guesses? How about material? Use the thin fan-fold foam, or use
> posterboard, or even balsa and plywood, or something else I have not
> considered?
>
> Of course, part of the fun is trying to do it for practically free, mostly
> from stuff sitting around the shop.
>
> What say ye? Anyone ever kick that idea around?
>
> I'm sure that I am not the only one to think along these lines! <g>
>
> I also got a mini color TV camera an 2.4 gig transmitter that needs a
> home. I'm thinking big size, with a Ryobi weedeater (31cc I think) with a
> possible electric start, so I can shut down and restart in the air for
> perfect, vibration free still pictures, at the same time. Of course, it
> would be nice for the cameras to mounted on a ground controllable gimbal,
> to get left and right, and up and down movement.
>
> I think the best platform would be a high or shoulder wing design, with
> twin tail booms and a pusher engine layout, to leave the whole nose with a
> clear globe for the cameras to look through.
>
> Anyone got some thoughts on that? Also, any recommendations for a pusher
> prop, of around 18 x 6-10, or possibly 16 x 10, or even 20 x 4, or 3/1/2?
>
> I have not flown, or even started this motor, after I converted it around
> 8 years ago. Health issues, and now I'm trying to get back into the air
> regularly, again.
>
> Not too ambitious, I hope, but I know it is. <g> OK, how about a hand
> launched glider? ;-)
>
> So, give me your thoughts on my plans, and plop your plans out on the
> table, for us to kick around!
> --
> Jim in NC



Old Feb 05, 2007, 08:11 PM
Morgans
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Re: Build, Build, Build.


"Ed Forsythe" <EdForsythe@hotmail.com> wrote

> Jim,
> I think the senior Telemaster will handle the load. Use the KISS theory
> and strap it to the top of the wing. Easy to change when you're
> experimenting.


Naah. You're missing half the point.

To me, building is way more than half the fun. I find the process of
designing, trying, and improving the design to be greatly satisfying.

I want to have a somewhat sleek design, that will fly some useful missions,
but to achieve greatness in it's complexity and functionality, but all done
with the minimum of store bought components, and cost.

The goal ultimately, is to be able to fly as a virtual airplane, with the
ability to look to the side with the camera, then fly over there, if wanted.
Using the video, one could then get the area of interest lined up and snap a
picture.

Just a frustrated engineer/ designer, I guess! <g>
--
Jim in NC

Old Feb 05, 2007, 08:11 PM
Morgans
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"Fubar of The HillPeople" <fubar1@trashsocal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45c75139$0$28167$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Stepped on a sheet of ice back on the 14th of last month and developed a
> nice set of spiral fractures in both the fibula and tibula resulting in my
> very own titanium rod and a set of screws to match.
> Got time and then some for building right now but getting down the stairs
> to the garage is a major undertaking and standing at a work bench is out
> of the question.
> Huge stack of unbuilt kits and partials and I cant access any of em.
> Goin stir crazy as a result...


Damn! Finally, someone with worse luck than me!

Really, sorry to hear of your woes. I've got two back surgeries to say I
may understand a little of what you are going through.

You might find (in some part of your recovery) that if you get someone to
get a piece of plywood, a razor saw, some blades and a handle, glue and some
assorted sandpaper, you might still be able to build some.

I would work in my recliner, with the plywood resting on the arms, and have
my own portable workbench, all with my feet up in the air. You learn to get
creative, and do a lot of freehand work, and repeated checking to see if
stuff is staying straight.

Sometimes I would lay on the floor and work. I would work a bit, then roll
over and take a nap, or just rest, then go back to it.

Taking your mind off your pain is a really good thing, or it was for me.
--
Jim in NC

 


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