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Old Jan 29, 2007, 10:32 PM
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1914 Ingram/Foster Biplane...

Ok, many many moons ago I had to go down to Albequerque for work, and got a chance to see the ONE 1914 Ingram/Foster biplane in existance. It was just darn cool in my book. And having recently been inspired by a member in our club that does some awesome glow/gas scale ships, I thought I'd do a little research and look into doing one.

After just a quick bit of searching, I saw that Pat Tritle had designed and built one. Knowing that scale would be new to me, doing it scratch would be even harder. So I contacted Pat, and the following week while down there for work yet again, I met up with Pat and picked up the plans and a CD full of build photos and referece photos.

I thought I'd get to it somewhat quickly, but life got in the way, as is normal. Well now I'm settled into a new house, my building space is limited until I can build a workshop, but I have enough room to get started. It's going to take me a while, but I hope to do his plan justice.

Here's a picture so you can see what it is (in case ya don't know)...
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 05:08 AM
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Cool project! We'll be watching!
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Old Feb 02, 2007, 09:45 AM
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Ok, wood ordered. One step in the right direction.

Going by recla-metals today to look for some odds and ends. Hope to get building within the next week or so.
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Old Feb 02, 2007, 10:02 AM
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Arbo, saw you live in Montrose. I grew up in Gunnison, just up the road from you. Looks like a cool plane. Are those ailerons hanging so far off the back of the wing?

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Old Feb 02, 2007, 10:11 AM
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Yes, they are half way between the top and bottom wing, and stick out past the end of the wing.

This picture may show it better:
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Old Mar 18, 2007, 04:04 PM
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Got started: Here's the top wing mostly framed up:
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Old Mar 23, 2007, 10:23 PM
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Top wing still needs sanding. Bottom wing built as well.

Started the front fuse.

My bambo skewers seem to be fatter than shown on the plans... so I'll need to do a bit more to secure the connections.. but they are tacked together.
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Old Mar 25, 2007, 11:48 AM
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Rudder and horizontal stab...

BTW, what's the best method you guys have for getting good bends in brass and aluminum tubes?
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Old Mar 25, 2007, 05:39 PM
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Rudder and horizontal stab...

BTW, what's the best method you guys have for getting good bends in brass and aluminum tubes?

In automotive muffler shops they use a special set of mandrels that slide along the tube as it's bent, keeps the tube in shape.

I'm not sure if they're still available, but in the HVAC industry theres these tubing bender springs that you slip over tubing while it's being bent. Although if the tube kinks, you can end up with the spring stuck on it. You might try slipping a close fitting spring over the tubing and give it a try..
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Doesn't K&S in the USA make a set of externally-applied bender springs for 1/8" and slightly larger size tubing? Their products are available at hobby and craft shops and some hardware stores, along with interesting sizes of aluminum, copper, and brass tubing, some even in square cross-sections.

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If you don't mind a little flattening you can use fine sand. Crimp one end, fill with sand (or salt) and crimp the other end. Bend. Then cut off ends and empty.

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Thanks for the info guys. Turns out one of my club members has the mentioned springs and has offered to let me use them.
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Pilots seat (and aileron control )...
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Old Apr 07, 2007, 01:56 PM
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Cool!!
I started the same project yesterday!
So far i have finished the elevator and rudder (the most difficult parts ). Right now i am making the fittings for the nosewheel from brass. I have bought the spoke wheels from Keith Sparks. But i will use a different material for the tires. It is grey silicone and is a lot sturdier than the foam material which Keith uses for the wheels. I bought it from AerodromeRC here in Germany (which has it's main website in the US http://www.aerodromerc.com/

Good luck with your project!

Olaf

P.S. The bamboo sticks on the picture really look bigger than 1/8'' (3mm). My chinese supermarket round the corner had sticks just the right size.
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Old Apr 08, 2007, 09:35 AM
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Olaf, yes, my bamboo is too big. It's the only size I could find. So I'll be making a new one with 1/8th dowls. I'll have to check on the stuff for the tires, I kinda wanted a white like the original more than a black foam. I have yet to order my wheels, as I was considering making them, but I think in the next day or two I'll just order some.

I've been out of town for the past week (and still am) but should be getting back to the build soon.

I'm going to be in Germany (Erlangin) for two weeks in my, depending on your distance from there perhaps I could stop and see your's on a weekend.

Paul
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