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Old Feb 25, 2007, 06:50 PM
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Madsci Guy- no way for 1/2A Pacer.... look great model but too fast.... same model um the birdie 10-15 by Global. I been thinking about the Pacer. will see about that this year or so. (thinking) upgrade the pico or mini retract on it that will be looking GGOODD. Later.....

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Old Feb 26, 2007, 08:15 AM
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1/2A Airplane Trainer

here,,,, name that r/c plane? THANKS.....
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 09:29 AM
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That's a 1/2A SST, alrighty.
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 09:40 AM
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Madsci Guy- no way for 1/2A Pacer.... look great model but too fast.... same model um the birdie 10-15 by Global. I been thinking about the Pacer. will see about that this year or so. (thinking) upgrade the pico or mini retract on it that will be looking GGOODD. Later.....

Steve.
Pacers, too fast? I never found them to be so, but then again, I flew Chuck'rs and GLH's too. Compared to a 1/2A Shrike, they were very slow.

My personal opinion, I wouldn't stick retracts or anything extra on a Mach None or Pacer, or similar 1/2A plane. When they were at 11 oz or so they flew like a dream. If the thing was heavy, it would be too fast, maybe. The instructions talked about people putting a .15 on the Pacer, but then they said it was more like model rocketry, and recommended against it.

You're right, the 1/2A Birdy is pretty close to a Pacer. Very pretty lines, being a scale model of a Bridi Dirty Birdy, one of the best RC plans ever designed.
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Old Mar 05, 2008, 09:54 PM
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Here's a pic of the 1/2A SST I've been flying for the past couple of seasons.
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Old Mar 05, 2008, 10:09 PM
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That's a great looking plane, Steve. Did you use the foam wing with capstrips or do a built up wing?

Looks like you have a super place to fly -- quite wide open.

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Old Mar 05, 2008, 10:47 PM
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Built right from what Hobby Shack put in the box - foam wing with cap strips. I have one wing kit left so I can build one more of these planes someday. If you want to build one, the plans are still available from RCM. Once you get the plans, you can make a template of the rib, send it to the AMA and they have a service that will cut you a set of foam cores. It's a fairly easy plane to build. I did change mine from the rubber band set-up for wing attachment to a more conventional small nylon bolt.
Our club (http://www.wrcf.rchomepage.com/) has a nice field just southwest of town. We rent about 5 acres from an antique steam & gas engine club that purchased a 40 acre farm for their use. There is only one problem with that field - a very large "plane eating oak tree" straigh out from the pits and right in-line with the downwind leg of the main runway. See picture of it after a meal of Piper Cub.
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Old Mar 05, 2008, 11:43 PM
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<snip>...If you want to build one, the plans are still available from RCM. Once you get the plans, you can make a template of the rib, send it to the AMA and they have a service that will cut you a set of foam cores. ...<snip>....See picture of it after a meal of Piper Cub.
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Thanks. I've had a plan set for quite some time, but it's always good to remind folks that the RCM plans service is still operational. The site is www.rcmmagazine.com . I built my own foam cutter, but didn't know that the AMA had a cutting service -- that's good info.

One of the first things I usually do with a new set of plans is cut templates from formica, both for cores and for cutting ribs -- gives me the option of both builds.

Those plane eating trees crop up everywhere. Many years ago I was flying a .020 powered freeflight in an 80 acre field on the farm -- there was one tall tree in a fencerow -- need I say more.
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Old Jun 13, 2010, 09:00 PM
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i have a SureFlite Baby Turkey that I bought from Hobby Shack in the late 70's and started building. The instructions said to use contact cement on the wings for the balsa sheeting. I used 3M contact cement from the hardware store and watched the wing melt! That is how the kit has stayed for decades. I do keep an eye out for a built up wing to use instead but have not found one.

Can anyone tell me if the 1/2A SST from RCM (and Hobby Shack) was the same plane as the Sureflite Baby Turkey? They look the same and the plans or instruction sheet sure looks similar.

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I think the Sure Flite cores are an exact replacement for the SST cores, aren't they? Sure Flite was a Hobby Shack brand, if memory serves.

Build one under 14 oz and they fly super. Stay away from 22 oz.

1/2A plans

http://my.pclink.com/~dfritzke/
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Old Jun 13, 2010, 09:31 PM
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M_D

Check with Steve Adams at Select Hobbies. ACE constant chord wings are located at the bottom of the link. He usually keeps several sets on hand. The ACE wing should work for your SST.

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Old Aug 28, 2012, 04:39 AM
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Stevo go here
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1566354
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 05:11 PM
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I know this is the second time I've dragged up an ancient thread today, but I just needed to share. I built my 1/2a SST when I was around 9 or 10 years old, but it never flew. I used standard Futaba gear and a black widow .049 back then, but I just could never get it airborne. It was also the first R/C plane I had ever built. So, when I moved to Florida this summer, I came across it's old battered airframe. I had a motor meant for a quadcopter lying around that spins a 10X4.5, and a roll of orange Econokote, so I went at rehabbing it and seeing if I could get it to fly. I completely recovered it and fixed several things I had done wrong as a young kid, and even detailed the motor to sort of look similar to the original black widow it had up front, with a diesel twist. It almost fools people at ten feet (ok, maybe 20). I also added two aileron servos internally, utilizing the original torque rods (sort of how I did it on my Cosmic Wind). I did leave the vertical stab covered in the original red, just as a homage to my past. Well, I brought it down to the local park, and I'll be damned that it flew after building it and then failing 20 years ago. Man, was I excited. I've flown plenty of airplanes since building that first one, but getting that first failure to fly was more of a rush than any Spitfire or racing plane I've flown since. For some specs, the motor is an Emax 2213 Multicopter motor spinning a 10X4.5, 30amp Mystery ESC, on either a 1300 or 2200 3S Lipo. Requires 1/2 to full to keep it airborne, so I'll eventually swap it out for something a little more matched. But for now, it flies just fine. Even with this setup, the motor and ESC are always cool to the touch after. So, here's some pics to add to the thread. On a side note, setting it up with both Flaperons and Spoilerons was worth the extra little bit of weight. It can either land in a VERY VERY short spot, or fly almost at a walk.
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 05:48 PM
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Condor84 --

Good for you. Looks like you've got a nice flying plane --- especially for a restoration. Seeing something fly after so many years is bound to be satisfying. Thanks for sharing.

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Old Sep 30, 2014, 07:42 PM
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I know this is the second time I've dragged up an ancient thread today, but I just needed to share.
I think this is great. Kind of no reason to abandon a thread, and you'll find some of the earlier contributors will voice up. You have me considering the SST build - I have stockpiled some engines lately so quite a few to pick from.

In a perfect world I would build at least three of everything - one in glow, one in diesel, and one in electric.

See if you can get some video - that is a nice looking plane. Super that you kept the rudder covered as original - cool.
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 11:13 PM
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madsci guy, Thanks for help and found the RCM's plans, been looking for Foam Wing by ACE. No more ACE Foam Wing Kit. Ace high MK II-out of production. I will keep looking.
thanks again madsci guy......

FNLL.
I know this is re-hashed page but Don't order from RCM!!! They have ripping people off for the last couple of years by taking money and not delivering plans!! Do a search here in RCG on RCM plans and you'll find some interesting posts.

Shawn
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