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Old Oct 04, 2012, 06:39 PM
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Wow. I'll take that as a compliment. I had not seen nor heard of the Genie when I drew these up last week (I have been away from the hobby for 20 years). It is based on my experience with the Sagitta and dozens of other planes I built years ago. I guess there are only so many ways to make a wooden fuselage! I hope I have not given the impression of taking someone's design. That did not happen and if it seems to be a problem I'd be happy to take down the drawing. Should I do that?

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I wouldn't.
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 06:55 PM
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Fickle flier: The short kit and plans do not include a fuselage. It's designed to work with existing pod/boom composite fuselages out there. Same with the Houston Hawk but fuselages for the HH are not so easy to source. That's why I drew one up and this Yardbird fuse is a variation of that. I made another version today for the HH. It could easily be modified for the Yardbird too. I like to build with wood, that's why I have even started down this path.

pdf of straighter Yardbird fuse:
http://wkleinsasser.net/download/Yar...e_fuselage.pdf


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Old Oct 05, 2012, 12:08 PM
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Here is a wooden pod fuselage adapted from the other one I posted.

http://wkleinsasser.net/download/Yar...selage_pod.pdf
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Old Oct 05, 2012, 06:07 PM
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I like your designs. This one looks similar to my e-pod. I'd post a pic of that too, but I just drew it out right on the building board and put it together over top of the plan.
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Old Oct 05, 2012, 07:58 PM
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yardbird fuselage for houston hawk?

Without my digging out my plans from their safe resting place, I'd love to know what dimensions of the Yardbird wooden fuselage whose plan was just posted here would need to be changed in order to use it with the Houston Hawk plans/lasercuts.

I think I'm asking what the differences are between the Yardbird and Houston Hawk designs that pertain to mating them to a fuselage.

Thanks, folks.
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Old Oct 05, 2012, 09:32 PM
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The Hawk has plug in wings at the fuselage like a Sagitta, the Yardbird is a top mount like an Allegro or Bubble Dancer (just to name some of my other planes).

Obviously that makes the fuselages much different.

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Old Oct 05, 2012, 10:24 PM
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You guys believe this thread started in 2006?

I wonder how many Yardbirds and Hawks have been built since then...

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Old Oct 05, 2012, 11:32 PM
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fuselage

Dion, the shoulder wing mount for the Yardbird vs. the plug-in wings of the Houston Hawk sure does make a difference. Oh, well, a good idea while it lasted. All us HH builders are patiently hoping that Jack gets enough breathing room to design a wooden HH fuselage. I have a lovely brand new fiberglass fuselage for the HH, but I was hoping to be able to build its structure entirely of wood. At any rate, you did a beautiful job with the Yardbird fuselage. Thank you.
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 12:21 AM
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I also drew up the fuselage and pod versions for the Houston Hawk. Here they are:

pdf:
http://wkleinsasser.net/download/Str...ge_HH_tail.pdf

dwg:
http://wkleinsasser.net/download/Str...th_HH_tail.zip

POD

pdf:
http://wkleinsasser.net/download/Str...selage_Pod.pdf

dwg:
http://wkleinsasser.net/download/Str...selage_Pod.zip

Let me know if you see anything that needs changing. Before putting these up, I contacted Jack Womack and he has given me permission to post these.

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Old Oct 06, 2012, 06:49 AM
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I think the nose needs more droop.
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 08:33 AM
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You guys believe this thread started in 2006?

I wonder how many Yardbirds and Hawks have been built since then...

AJ
I built my YardBird about 2 years ago w/ two Art Hobby fuses--TD and electric. Still flying. Use the electric mostly. Flies great. Just remember to use spruce, not 'hard balsa' for outer panel spars, or you'll build the wing twice, like I did.
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 10:00 AM
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Dion9146,

Ha!

I can still send you that plan if you really need it!

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Old Oct 06, 2012, 12:02 PM
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HH fuselage

Bill, that's a lovely fuselage. Thanks very much for drawing it up.
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 12:14 PM
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Thanks, PeterH

Here are the most recent files:

Fuselage pdf
http://wkleinsasser.net/download/Yar...e_fuselage.pdf

Fuselage dwg:
http://wkleinsasser.net/download/Yar...e_fuselage.zip

Pod pdf:
http://wkleinsasser.net/download/Yar...selage_pod.pdf

dwg:
http://wkleinsasser.net/download/Yar...selage_pod.zip

These are designs that I have not yet built and tested but please feel free to use them as you wish keeping that in mind.

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Old Oct 06, 2012, 02:30 PM
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Dion9146,

Ha!

I can still send you that plan if you really need it!

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That's OK, I still have a Genie fuselage.
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