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Old Oct 28, 2011, 04:12 PM
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Jürgen,
I'm sorry to have to say it again. AeroMusicals is the FAI-copyrighted name for the F6B indoor freestyle class. F3P freestyle is F3P-AFM.
The classes are increasingly different and you're causing a lot of confusion.

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Sorry Guy, but I have been organizing AeroMusicals competitions as part of the German Indoor Aerobatics Championship since 2003. There was no FAI F6B back then. The class later was adopted by the FAI as F3P-AM - with identical judging criteria as F6B. I am not changing the name, just because the FAI changed F3P-AM to F3P-AFM this year. Any confusion is rather caused by those name changes. I will continue to call it F3P-AM.

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Old Oct 30, 2011, 03:08 PM
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German Indoor Aerobatics Championship 2011

I send out some information in English regarding travelling, accommodation and dinner on Saturday (social event). Unfortunately some competitors may have missed out, because their provider does not accept eMails from AOL.

For those who have not received the eMail, I attached the message as pdf.

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Old Nov 03, 2011, 04:11 AM
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Mons AeroMusicals International

The first AeroMusicals contest of the year will take place in Mons, Belgium, January 14 & 15. The excellent flight site was already used for other major AeroMusicals events, including the first World Air Games AeroMusicals selection contest.
This contest will also be a selection event for the World Artistic Games in China in November, 2012, where the World's 24 top pilots will be invited.
Mons, next to the NATO European headquarters, is an easy reach by car, train or air.
Watch this space for more details soon !

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Old Nov 03, 2011, 04:33 AM
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The first AeroMusicals contest of the year will take place in Mons, Belgium, January 14 & 15.
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Hi Guy,

on one hand, you are trying to differentiate between F3P and AeroMusicals, and now you are promoting an F6B competition in the F3P subforum.

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Old Nov 07, 2011, 12:15 PM
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Update Pilot Registrations ...

32 Pilots from 7 European Countries:

Sebastian Reinecke - F3P-Sport & AM
Benedikt Pachmann - F3P-Expert & AM
Sergej Glavak - F3P-Expert
Markus Zolitsch - F3P-Expert & AM
Marc Faulhaber - F3P-Sport & AM
Dennis Heskamp - F3P-Sport & AM
Philipp Kaindl - F3P-Sport & AM
Dennis Pohle - F3P-Sport
Richart Sandmann - F3P-Sport
Karl-Ernst Overdick - F3P-Expert
Gernot Kuhr - F3P-Expert
Christoph Lausberg - F3P-Expert & AM
Kai Heuzeroth - F3P-Expert & AM
Max Als - F3P-Expert & AM

Ruud van den Barselaar (NL) - F3P-Expert
Max Scholten (NL) - F3P-Expert
Derk van der Vecht (NL) - F3P-Expert & AM
Bert van der Vecht (NL) - F3P-Expert & AM
Nando te Riele (NL) - F3P-Expert & AM
Robin Janssen (NL) - F3P-Expert
Ron Smetsers (NL) - F3P-Expert & AM

Christian Oppliger (CH) - F3P-Expert & AM
Nico Strebel (CH) - F3P-Expert & AM
Boris Ziegenhagen (CH) - F3P-Expert & AM

Marek Plichta (CZ) - F3P-Expert & AM
Jakub Necesanek (CZ) - F3P-Sport & AM
Jan Kral (CZ) - F3P-Sport

Donatas Pauzuolis (LT) - F3P-Expert & AM
Ignas Matulevicius (LT) - F3P-Sport & AM

Gregoriy Drozd (BY) - F3P-Expert & AM
Dzmitry Lisneuski (BY) - F3P-Sport

Gernot Bruckmann (A) - F3P-Expert & AM

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2012 International Aeromusicals - Mons, Belgium

We are organizing an FAI Open international F6B competition in the Lotto-Mons-Expo hall on January 14 & 15.



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Old Nov 23, 2011, 12:48 PM
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We are organizing an FAI Open international F6B competition in the Lotto-Mons-Expo hall on January 14 & 15.
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(I was asked to post on behalf of the organizing club)
Subject competition is an F6B event and this thread is titled "Contest Upcoming F3P events". This seems to be confusing for some people.

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Old Dec 01, 2011, 04:11 PM
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Sorry Guy, but I have been organizing AeroMusicals competitions as part of the German Indoor Aerobatics Championship since 2003. There was no FAI F6B back then. The class later was adopted by the FAI as F3P-AM - with identical judging criteria as F6B. I am not changing the name, just because the FAI changed F3P-AM to F3P-AFM this year. Any confusion is rather caused by those name changes. I will continue to call it F3P-AM.

Jürgen
Amen to that - there is not many people who have done so much for indoor competitive flying as you did. It is only fair I guess that we the (former and current F3P and AM and F6B and whatever else those categories may be called - who cares anyway) indoor flyers say that we recognize and remember that.
Guy, this picking is childish and counter productive. We are the pioneers and fai is the late comer who wants to monopolize everything.
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DAeC German Indoor Championship 17./18.03.2012 Coburg

Actual two pre-contests and one German Championship are under preparation.

pre-contest I: 11./12.02. near Hanover

club: MBC Burgdorf
place: Ballsporthalle am Schulzentrum Burgdorf, Berliner Ring 27, 31303 Burgdorf/ Hannover
schedules: F3P-A (P+F), F3P-B, F3P-AFM (previous AM) und F3P-C
 
pre-contest II: 03.3./ 04.03. near Munich

club: FM-Poing
place: Dreifachturnhalle im Sportzentrum Poing, Plieningerstr.22, 85586 Poing
shedsuls: F3P-A (P+F), F3P-B, F3P-AFM (previous AM) und F3P-C


German Championship: 17./18.03. at Coburg

club: Aero Club Coburg e. V.
place: Huk Coburg Arena  http://www.huk-coburg-arena.com
Picture show for the hall is available under that link- open and just wait for the changing pictures. The hall is amazing!
schedules: F3P-A (P+F), F3P-B, F3P-AFM (previous AM) ( F3P-C pending on number of participants in A,B and AM)

pre-contests might be reduced to one day pending on number of participants.

German Championship will include an Indoor-Show at Saturday evening. Pilots who are interested in joining the show can already contact me.
Like last year: pre-contests will be not mandatory for international pilots. As sonn as more details are fixed information will follow at this place.

We tried to avoid usage of same date as for Iitop in france. Unfortunately the information we received for the scheduled dates for Iitop turend out to be wrong at least. No we hit again. Sorry. We will try once more next year.


schedules:

The new schedules F3P-AP and F3P-AF / description of maneuvers is available at homepage of DAeC http://www.modellflug-im-daec.de/bemod/bemod_index.htm „Vorab-information Flugprogramm der Klasse F3P ab 2012“. Schedules are based on the unofficial documents sent by the CIAM. Changes might happen but anyway we already based our schedules on this. The official versions from CIAM might not be provided before beginning of 2012. Minor changes might be updated in our schedules if they will be noticed in sufficient time before competitions.

Presentations are actual under construction by Peter Uhlig also coming soon at homepage of DAeC.

B-Program 2012 has been coordinated with Jürgen Heilig (DMFV) and will be used in both associations in the same way(except not scoring take off and landing at DAeC). The actual draft is also attached.

Schedule for F3P-C remains unchanged.



best regards,



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Old Dec 04, 2011, 01:13 PM
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B-Program 2012 has been coordinated with Jürgen Heilig (DMFV) and will be used in both associations in the same way (except not scoring take off and landing at DAeC) ...
Well, I would not call it "scoring" either. You either get 10 points when you perform the standardized take off sequence (S-Pattern), but 0 points if you don't. Same for landing. You will automatically get 10 points when you land directly after the last figure, otherwise you get a Zero.

It is really just a means to prevent extensive trim-flying before or "show fly acts" at the end of the flight.

This system has worked very well over the last three years and I can't remember anybody risking a Zero.

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Old Dec 13, 2011, 06:15 AM
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We are organizing an FAI Open international F6B competition in the Lotto-Mons-Expo hall on January 14 & 15.



(I was asked to post on behalf of the organizing club)
Hallo,
has somebody contact (email) to main organizer in Mons??

My son filled up the entry form and we have no info about it.

We haven´t contact for some hotel or accomodation near by hall.

Thanks Vladislav
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Hallo,
has somebody contact (email) to main organizer in Mons??
My son filled up the entry form and we have no info about it.
We haven´t contact for some hotel or accomodation near by hall.
Thanks Vladislav

Hello,

Registration for Marek is done, I believe.
The organising staff will be at the Infotel in Mons, but many other hotels are available in Mons.
http://www.hotelinfotel.be/
The hall is about 3 km from the hotels (a 20 minute walk)

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Old Dec 13, 2011, 08:09 AM
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Hello,

Registration for Marek is done, I believe.
The organising staff will be at the Infotel in Mons, but many other hotels are available in Mons.
http://www.hotelinfotel.be/
The hall is about 3 km from the hotels (a 20 minute walk)

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Thanks Guy i will contact hotel.
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Old Dec 13, 2011, 12:15 PM
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Hallo,
has somebody contact (email) to main organizer in Mons??

My son filled up the entry form and we have no info about it.

We haven´t contact for some hotel or accomodation near by hall.

Thanks Vladislav
Please contact the organizing club. I think their info is in the original post. I am not affiliated with them or the event. Just trying to help them get the info posted. This thread attempts to be the 1 stop for all F3P contest info worldwide (through the continued efforts of people like Jurgen Heilig).

F6B = F3PAM = Aeromusicals (in Europe) = freestyle (in US). I agree it's confusing but this is an international forum. If the contest is in Europe then I hope those close enough to go will know the terms in use there. No one really says F3P AM here in the US either. I think its beyond my editorial preview to make any changes to what they called it.
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Old Dec 14, 2011, 03:40 AM
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Thanks Guy i will contact hotel.
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Hi Vladislav,

The Hotel Infotel is already fully booked for subject weekend. I am planning to use Hotel IBIS at Mons main station, or the Mercure (former "Hotel de la foret) near SHAPE.

Jürgen

P.S.: It would be nice to know, how many pilots are required to make this event take place. I would like to safe money by paying in advance, but not for an event, which may be cancelled on short notice and then losing all pre-deposits.
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