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Old Nov 13, 2006, 03:09 PM
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SR-71 BlackBird RC Model from GWS?

Mr. Lin:

Does your company has any plans to make a mold of the SR-71 Black Bird anytime soon?

Foam is pretty good application for such an RC Model as it seems that the P-38, oh excuse me the GWS-38 is a big success!

Mr. Lin......how about a SR-71 Black Bird for those that like to enter the Ducted Fan Jet modeling???????

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I'd seen part of this before but the ending is a kick. If you dig jets, you'll dig this. A "Sled" is another nickname for the SR-71 Blackbird, the fastest aircraft on Earth (or above Earth - for the last 45 years) Ground speed is roughly how fast you're going. Roughly.

This is an exerpt from "Sled Driver" by Brian Shul.

Subject: SR71 speed is king
There were a lot of things we couldn't do in an SR-71, but we were the fastest guys on the block and loved reminding our fellow aviators of this fact. People often asked us if, because of this fact, it was fun to fly the jet. Fun would not be the first word I would use to describe flying this plane. Intense, maybe. Even cerebral. But there was one day in our Sled experience when we would have to say that it was pure fun to be the fastest guys out there, at least for a moment. It occurred when Walt and I were flying our final training sortie. We needed 100 hours in the jet to complete our training and attain Mission Ready status.

Somewhere over Colorado we had passed the century mark. We had made the turn in Arizona and the jet was performing flawlessly. My gauges were wired in the front seat and we were starting to feel pretty good about ourselves, not only because we would soon be flying real missions but because we had gained a great deal of confidence in the plan in the past ten months. Ripping across the barren deserts 80,000 feet below us, I could already see the coast of California from the Arizona border. I was, finally, after many humbling months of simulators and study, ahead of the jet. I was beginning to feel a bit sorry for Walter in the back seat. There he was, with no really good view of the incredible sights before us, tasked with monitoring four different radios. This was good practice for him for when we began flying real missions, when a priority transmission from headquarters could be vital. It had been difficult, too, for me to relinquish control of the radios, as during my entire flying career I had controlled my own transmissions. But it was part of the division of duties in this plane and I had adjusted to it. I still insisted on talking on the radio while we were on the ground, however.

Walt was so good at many things, but he couldn't match my expertise at sounding smooth on the radios, a skill that had been honed sharply with years in fighter squadrons where the slightest radio miscue was grounds for beheading. He understood that and allowed me that luxury. Just to get a sense of what Walt had to contend with, I pulled the radio toggle switches and monitored the frequencies along with him. The predominant radio chatter was from Los Angeles Center , far below us, controlling daily traffic in their sector. While they had us on their scope (albeit briefly), we were in uncontrolled airspace and normally would not talk to them unless we needed to descend into their airspace.

We listened as the shaky voice of a lone Cessna pilot asked Center for a readout of his ground speed. Center replied:

November Charlie 175, I'm showing you at ninety knots on the ground.

Now the thing to understand about Center controllers, was that whether they were talking to a rookie pilot in a Cessna, or to Air Force One, they always spoke in the exact same, calm, deep, professional, tone that made one feel important. I referred to it as the " HoustonCentervoice."

I have always felt that after years of seeing documentaries on this country's space program and listening to the calm and distinct voice of the Houstoncontrollers, that all other controllers since then wanted to sound like that... and that they basically did. And it didn't matter what sector of the country we would be flying in, it always seemed like the same guy was talking. Over the years that tone of voice had become somewhat of a comforting sound to pilots everywhere. Conversely, over the years, pilots always wanted to ensure that, when transmitting, they sounded like Chuck Yeager, or at least like John Wayne. Better to die than sound bad on the radios.

Just moments after the Cessna's inquiry, a Twin Beech piped up on frequency, in a rather superior tone, asking for his groundspeed.

Ah, Twin Beach.
I have you at one hundred and twenty-five knots of ground speed.

Boy, I thought, the Beechcraft really must think he is dazzling his Cessna brethren.

Then out of the blue, a navy F-18 pilot out of NAS Lemoore came up on frequency. You knew right away it was a Navy jock because he sounded very cool on the radios.

Center, Dusty 52 ground speed check

Before Center could reply, I'm thinking to myself, hey, Dusty 52 has a ground speed indicator in that million dollar cockpit, so why is he asking Center for a readout? Then I got it, ol' Dusty here is making sure that every bug smasher from Mount Whitney to the Mojave knows what true speed is. He's the fastest dude in the valley today, and he just wants everyone to know how much fun he is having in his new Hornet.

And the reply, always with that same, calm, voice, with more distinct alliteration than emotion:

Dusty 52, Center, we have you at 620 on the ground.

And I thought to myself, is this a ripe situation, or what? As my hand instinctively reached for the mic button, I had to remind myself that Walt was in control of the radios. Still, I thought, it must be done - in mere seconds we'll be out of the sector and the opportunity will be lost. That Hornet must die, and die now.

I thought about all of our Sim training and how important it was that we developed well as a crew and knew that to jump in on the radios now would destroy the integrity of all that we had worked toward becoming. I was torn. Somewhere, 13 miles above Arizona, there was a pilot screaming inside his space helmet.

Then, I heard it. The click of the mic button from the back seat.
That was the very moment that I knew Walter and I had become a crew.
Very professionally, and with no emotion, Walter spoke:

Los Angeles Center, Aspen 20, can you give us a ground speed check?

There was no hesitation, and the replay came as if was an everyday request.

Aspen 20, I show you at one thousand eight hundred and forty-two knots, across the ground.

I think it was the forty-two knots that I liked the best, so accurate and proud was Center to deliver that information without hesitation, and you just knew he was smiling. But the precise point at which I knew that Walt and I were going to be really good friends for a long time was when he keyed the mic once again to say, in his most fighter-pilot-like

voice:

Ah, Center, much thanks,
We're showing closer to nineteen hundred on the money.

For a moment Walter was a god. And we finally heard a little crack in the armor of the HoustonCentervoice, when L.A.came back with,

Roger that Aspen,
Your equipment is probably more accurate than ours.

You boys have a good one.

It all had lasted for just moments, but in that short, memorable sprint across the southwest, the Navy had been flamed, all mortal airplanes on freq were forced to bow before the King of Speed, and more importantly, Walter and I had crossed the threshold of being a crew. A fine day's work.

We never heard another transmission on that frequency all the way to the coast. For just one day, it truly was fun being the fastest guys out there!
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SR-71 Black Bird should be the next GWS model on GWS mold plans!!
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 06:02 PM
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guapoman 2000, A GWS -71 would be great. Brian's book is a great read.

quote: "I'd seen part of this before but the ending is a kick. If you dig jets, you'll dig this. A "Sled" is another nickname for the SR-71 Blackbird, the fastest aircraft on Earth (or above Earth - for the last 45 years) Ground speed is roughly how fast you're going. Roughly."

The SR-71,while faster than any fighter, was not quite as fast as the X-15, mach 6.6 I believe.
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 06:13 PM
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There's a fine line between "airplane" and "rocket with wings."

The X-15 often crossed it.

The Blackbird's a tough subject to model for a number of reasons, would be neat to see, though.
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 06:34 PM
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Yeah I agree with rdeis. What a great story though... I missed my chance to try out for USAF Fighter Pilot. Girls make you do funny things

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Old Nov 13, 2006, 07:36 PM
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SR-71 BlackBird RC Model from GWS?

May be GWS should make a Dark Bird!

Hoever, let us finish those in the pipe lines first of all.
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Old Nov 14, 2006, 12:49 AM
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I would love a GWS-71 LinBird. twin EDF-75s would be awesome. Especially mechanical retracts with doors and linkages preinstalled. I would pay like 150 dollars for a model like that. Mr. Lin also how is work on the F-15 you guys are supposedly working on?
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Old Nov 14, 2006, 03:43 AM
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My favourite Blackbird story is the one where the crew asks for clearance to 70,000ft. Air traffic control scoffingly says 'If you can get there its all yours' 'Roger, decending now...'
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Old Nov 14, 2006, 03:50 AM
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One I remember from a written account was how they "looked down on the contrails of 'others'..."
There is the real thing at the AF Museum in Dayton,Ohio. An engine for it is also displayed.
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Old Nov 14, 2006, 04:14 AM
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I would love a GWS-71 LinBird. twin EDF-75s would be awesome. Especially mechanical retracts with doors and linkages preinstalled. I would pay like 150 dollars for a model like that. Mr. Lin also how is work on the F-15 you guys are supposedly working on?
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Well here's some threads and you can see people included retracts....not impossible....I still feel GWS can easily do this model without too much fuss.



http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...+71+Black+Bird

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...+71+Black+Bird


Oh, there's VIDEOs of the retract doors and run-up of the EDF ducted fan units at:

http://www.rcgroups.com/gallery/show...0&ppuser=34278

Super videos of one certain SR-71 Black Bird!

GWS GWS GWS let's go GWS GWS!!!
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Old Nov 14, 2006, 07:41 AM
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very very very nice (drools).

GWS PLEASE MAKE OUR DREAMS COME TRUE AND MAKE A MODEL SR-71 WITH WORKING RETRACTS.

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Old Nov 14, 2006, 08:46 AM
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May be GWS should make a Dark Bird!

Hoever, let us finish those in the pipe lines first of all.
YES!

Thank You Mr.Lin.
Very Good!
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Old Nov 14, 2006, 09:37 AM
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There's a fun video of a little cheapo EPP SR71 here http://www.freeair.cz/ENGLISH/Download-video-AJ.html

Its flying on a pusher prop but you can also check out three little EDF jets all running on GWS EDF40's. How about it Mr Lin?
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Old Nov 14, 2006, 10:16 AM
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I would pay like 150 dollars for a model like that.
Considering that most any scale kit with pre-installed retracts costs double or triple that, so would I!
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Old Nov 14, 2006, 01:20 PM
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Considering that most any scale kit with pre-installed retracts costs double or triple that, so would I!
Why Triple? Let's learn from UltraFly Models and it's P-51D Mustang....retracts and all at a very reasonable price!!!

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ght=Foam+P+51D

Check out the link above!!!
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Old Nov 14, 2006, 04:48 PM
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well This is FOAM not balsa.

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