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Old Jun 12, 2007, 03:19 PM
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Butch, will these planes do any kind of high alpha flight? Or it that a whole other design to achieve HA flight?
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Old Jun 12, 2007, 03:45 PM
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Some of the Guys who have flown and or watched the Boomers fly, commented on the high alpha being more than they thought it would do, but to get the max, you'd have to set it up to do that using the right power to weight ratio and the right size control surfaces and a C/G to match.
But it may make it harder for a beginner or less experianced to fly. Butch
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Old Jun 12, 2007, 04:59 PM
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No biggie Butch, I bought it to learn on. I think it'll be great!
I'll PM you the paypal info. I want an extra lipo with it.
Thanks
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Old Jun 13, 2007, 05:22 AM
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GWS 1AXC-4A w/Spinner

GWS stock number---IPS-DX2BB-AXCS

that the closest I could find, it was about 14 bucks
Ball bearing supported gearbox
"A" ratio gearbox
IPS Motor
Black plastic one-piece spinner
Great Planes LiPo 7.4V 350mAh 2S 20C Discharge 2-Pin

GWS ICS50E/F Speed Control 2A 3.6-9.6V Futaba

I did my best! plus I had a 20 dollar off coupon I couldn't resist

I don' know what GWS propellers to get though..do they have an equivilent to the 80xx ones?
I am still fuzzy on how the propellers work, Im reading but I still don't have it mezmorized

all the props on tower hobbies are 10x6 or 8x whatever..which of these are for the boomer?
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Old Jun 13, 2007, 09:10 AM
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If you want to go with a brushless motor and Lipo batteries, you can't beat the deals atUH. Although, be sure your item is well-stocked or it could take over 2 months to receive the parts.
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Old Jun 13, 2007, 05:08 PM
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Like a kid in the candy store I opened the tower hobbies and I think I got the right stuff.
the ESC is tiny tiny....and all the plugs are the same.

if I totally Bork this build, I may be sending Butch 45 bucks.....
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Old Jun 13, 2007, 05:43 PM
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I don' know what GWS propellers to get though..do they have an equivilent to the 80xx ones?
I am still fuzzy on how the propellers work, Im reading but I still don't have it mezmorized

all the props on tower hobbies are 10x6 or 8x whatever..which of these are for the boomer?
If you click on the GWS propellers (listed under nylon propellers), you will see such a list. If you click on each item, they will give you an alternative set of numbers.
For example, the 8x4.3 propeller has a manufacturer stock number of "EP8043/6P", which means 6 propellers of type 8043.
Similarly, 10x6 is of type 1060.

There is one caveat. Sometimes a slow flyer and a direct drive propeller will have the same numbers. For example, there are two 12x8 propeller listings,
one for slow flyer (type 1280) and one for direct drive (type 1280DD).
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Old Jun 14, 2007, 05:38 AM
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excellant...thanks!

well the wildwing now has 4 inches cut out of it, next is trying to glue it back together..my cut was not the best...not vertical, so some sanding is in order
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Old Jun 14, 2007, 01:30 PM
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Looks like you got the right motor.
Just remember, the WildWing was designed to use a speed 400 motor. It looks about 10 times bigger than the IPS motor.

If you don't follow the thread and build it light, it may not fly at all!!

Early in this thread I built a WildWing-Lite, (not a Boomer), to compair flying to the WildWing Boomer. I used a IPS-A motor in both and basicly built both the Wing and Boomer the same. The Boomer flew alot better!
But, One of the other members built his WildWing with a IPS and PMed me that he couldn't understand why his had no power and wouldn't fly.
His ended up almost twice the weight. He'd used all the heavy parts, large lipo and bigger servos, etc.
Every bit of extra weight reduces power, so be careful.

When sanding the wing halves to reglue them, I use 120-150 grit, on a block of wood.
Sand in one direction only, then put the halves together and hold up to a light to see where they don't fit good. Butch
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Old Jun 14, 2007, 05:38 PM
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Thanks butch, I am also trying to build lite....basically going with exactly what you have, my servos though are futaba minis I beleive they are lite enough
3010 and 3011 and the rx is the 156f....all small for parkflyers.
the rx is bigger then the berg but very lite

I didint want to buy a new rx and servos, they fit fine with room to spare in the servo holes.
My worrie is lining everythin up and hooking up the pushrods...
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Old Jun 14, 2007, 09:51 PM
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Every time I build one, I worry about lining everything up.
I'm building a Faster version and when I set in the second boom, I got distracted and lined up the boom level with the first boom up and down, but realized just as the epoxy set, that it was pointing outboard too much. So I had to rip it out, scrape off the epoxy and quickly reset it, before the epoxy that was still in the slot set up!!

Aileron pushrods are easy if you use the the mini connectors. But the elevator pushrod can be tricky. I have had to bend up a new one, when I got the first one too short.
You could always use a mini connector on it also. Butch
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Old Jun 15, 2007, 12:43 AM
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When sanding the wing halves to reglue them, I use 120-150 grit, on a block of wood.
Sand in one direction only, then put the halves together and hold up to a light to see where they don't fit good. Butch
A question, when I read that the wing span was shortened by 3.5" to 4",
I thought that the wing tips were cut off.
But it sounds like you shorten the wing span by cutting out
the middle of the wing and then regluing the shortened wing halves
back together? Thanks.
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Old Jun 15, 2007, 01:22 AM
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The WildWing has some nice wing tips on it, but the biggest problem is the huge rc and batt bay holes in it. Plus for our purpose, around 30-31" wing span is about right.
I did a 4" cut at first, but the rx bay was a bit too small, although not bad. Then a 3" cut, a little too big, so the 3.5" cut seems to be about right if your using micro gear.
Plus, most Flying Wings come with 2 wing cores to glue together anyways. Butch
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Old Jun 15, 2007, 05:41 AM
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mine is already cut so I may need to do some creative cutting

did you use the hardware from the WW for the pushrods etc..?
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Old Jun 15, 2007, 12:15 PM
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Most of the WW hardware I don't use, such as the pushrods, horns, connectors, fins, rx/batt bay cover, skid and the motor mount. The pushrods are heavy and made out of cheap soft metal, so I use regular the piano wire type found in hobby shops.
The horns could be used, but there too heavy-duty, with larger holes in them than we need.
Even the balsa ailerons get sanded thinner and tapered or traced onto depron for a real lite Boomer. Butch
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