The packing tape comes from staples in the UK and you can buy a pack with several colours in it.

If you use the reflex xtr sim the su27 shocky and the estratos delta design can be downloaded from

http://www.rc-sim.de/index_en.htm ...downloads reflex planes

the delta weighs in at 12.5 oz..cheapo bell motor,8x4prop,1000mA 11.1v lipo,
usual stuff, slightly larger span. less flight time as the bells are a bit more power hungry at 7-8A full power with this prop.

Dave: Thanks for the setup info. I guess maybe next time I should actually look at the material before I start firing out questions! The Estratos is also on my never-ending list of things to try.

Of the two the su is prefered for its longer flight times.. ive been too lazy to try the cdrom motor on the estratos, but I must give it a go.

Hi Dave thanks for the email --- tracked it down to here but I cant dowmload dwg can you repost plans in pdf

Also that little cd rom motor is available from united hobbies for about £6.00 regards

Davereap,
Could your plans be posted again, but in PDF as I can't open these ones.
Thanks,
Bob

will try...

....the converter has given some slightly odd results

some of the curves are now made from straight line sections, but you will see that easy enough.

Ive been using velcro to hold on my batteries... be warned the self adhesive tape type needs to be stuck to the depron with uhu por, (it does stick to the battery covering ok)
It will come away eventually under the stresses in flight and the plane will go haywire, mine just ended up in the top of a 40' tree

I found out that I can still climb trees at 57 and poked it free with a fishing rod.. should have sent the boy up there...must have been mad

For comparison here is the 24" version of the su by stringfly...in case you havn,t seen it.
this is an enlargement of the ikarus shock flyer
and DepronDaves version of the f15

Strange you cant download the drawing files...I just left clicked on one then saved it to my docs, then extracted it ok with winzip....dave

Some zip files open for me & others do not. Can't explain it.
Perhaps poor computer skills.
Thanks much for the pdf's. I'm sure others will appreciate them as well.
Bob

would like to see more of the f-15 please

ya I was able to save it. but was not able to print it
I was realy looking foward to making one.

Download and Use the free "adobe reader" to open the 3-pdf files, print from there, the outlines in red are the shape variation for the f15. The shapes are kept simple to let you measure and draw it out, rather than needing a full size plan. As long as you keep the topview the same the cog will not need changing.. you can mod the side view to get a better representation of you choice of aircraft if you want.

amazing how well that worked. I got my plans printed out and ready to start cuting some foam. My next speed bump is figuring out how to poast the pics o well i'll fig that one out soon enough

1..take your pics
2..use a photo editor to make the pics size smaller about 800x 600 ( less time to upload)and save the files as .jpg
3..in the reply go advanced
4..click on manage attachments
5..browse to where you saved your images, select your image or images, click on upload
6..when upload done..click on submit your reply

Dave..... can we have a close up of the dual control rod linkage on the su... did you have any problems getting it set up I can't see any adjusters how did you do it.

PS ..... A good photo converter is picassa and its free..... it also finds every image on your computer ( were did I save that photo of when I was young and handsome) and displays thumbnails into date order