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Old Sep 11, 2006, 05:11 PM
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Oh man, why don't they just have us mail money in an envelope.

I don't feel secure in paying with this method.

Mr. Lin or Chen, why can we not pay in one of these methods.

1) Paypal

2) Secure website for Earlybird orders


Any of these methods would be much easier and more convenient. I know many Chinese dealers that have setup Paypal accounts, they work great and have increased sales and interest in their company.

-Chris
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 05:27 PM
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Oh man, why don't they just have us mail money in an envelope.
Uhhh - you mean you didn't. Man I hate that! Like the time I gave my car keys to the guy at the door and found out later he wasn't the valet.

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Old Sep 11, 2006, 06:07 PM
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Oh man, why don't they just have us mail money in an envelope.

I don't feel secure in paying with this method.

Mr. Lin or Chen, why can we not pay in one of these methods.

1) Paypal

2) Secure website for Earlybird orders


Any of these methods would be much easier and more convenient. I know many Chinese dealers that have setup Paypal accounts, they work great and have increased sales and interest in their company.

-Chris

I've got to agree with Chris on this one. It's bad enough you have to pay full retail for the kit, then pay shipping from china at over half the cost fo the kit again, then pay international phone charges only to have some night janitor grab the information and go on a spending spree and thats if the transmission was not hijakced while crossing the pacific somewhere.

I'd think for basically being a beta builder you could get some break on this. This is an awesome deal for GWS, they get us to pay a lot for them to get free advertising on what is perhaps the best venue for electric aircraft around the world!

Sorry I'll stop my rant now. I love the planes GWS puts out for scaleish planes on a budget. But just how much does one have to pay as an earlybird?
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 06:16 PM
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I just faxed my 2 pages. the first number was no answer, but the second number seemed to work. I hope we get a confirmation e-mail so we know for sure. (I wonder if they run 3 shifts in Tiawan/China.

BTW Vintauri. no CC info was in the E-mails we were sent. It all went thru the fax machines, which is pretty secure (I guess).

BTW it costs $35 each + $0.69 (for the fax call) to be in the earlybird club
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 06:36 PM
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pity no option for shipping two at less than 2x shipping

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[font=Times New Roman][size=4]In today's e-mail------------

GWAEO023 (GWS-38 NPS in white version) @USD49.95

Shipping cost via EMS:

To US - USD35.20 per kit
To EU - USD38.20 per kit
To Australia - USD28.40 per kit
To Asia - USD24.60 per kit

Let me know if you are interested to order.

Best regards,

Joyce Hsing

Shipping is a bit of a shock but I was semi-prepared.

Jim
I tried to reply to Joyces email, but GWS firewall bounced my mail back ( my "free" email operator sends too much html commercials resembling SPAM I guess)

I have accustomed myself to purchase 2 of most of the perishable goods I buy, thus , I would appreciate lower shipping cost for 2 than 2x1. (I wish I lived in Asia or Oceania )


It is a pity that motored versions are delayed allthough I bet most of us have numerous spare motors props the works from crashed or not crashed GWS Corsairs P51's DC-3/C-47's Spitfires Zeros Beavers E-Starters you name it just waiting for organ donation to Lightning. but new engine is really what brand new plane needs.

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Old Sep 11, 2006, 06:38 PM
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I just faxed my 2 pages. the first number was no answer, but the second number seemed to work. I hope we get a confirmation e-mail so we know for sure. (I wonder if they run 3 shifts in Tiawan/China.

BTW Vintauri. no CC info was in the E-mails we were sent. It all went thru the fax machines, which is pretty secure (I guess).

BTW it costs $35 each + $0.69 (for the fax call) to be in the earlybird club

Yeah Faxing is secure..... Sure perhaps they go into some electronic que but most places just have the faxes printed out as they come in. So now your personal info is sitting somewhere in Aisa waiting for someone to come by and pick it up.

These days I just don't trust places with my personal info like that.
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 07:09 PM
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Lol, faxing is secure... thats rich.

All it takes is a 0.99 cent phone splitter. And funnier yet, in China it prob costs .02 cents. Or maybe a phone tap... which will cost .05 cents in China.

Or maybe just one disgruntled GWS office worker, whos looking to "make more".


Bottom line, theives around the world look for little more than EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE SENDING... credit card numbers, SSN, birth dates, verification code numbers... the list goes on. This payment method is a poor way of doing business.

-Chris
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 07:41 PM
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I expect E-mail fraud is MUCH easier. since anyone around the world with an internet connection can try to get your info, or try to hack into Paypal.

I prefer the odds of someone actually sifting thru the possible hundreds of faxes GWS gets, versus the tens of Millions of e-mail and electronic payments out there on the internet.

there seems to be alot more internet related CC fraud, than FAX fraud. (I'll take those odds)
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 07:43 PM
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Back on subject...

I just noticed tha GWS forgot the State and Zipcode in the address field of the forms they e-mailed out. Double check that before you fax anything.

I rushed to fax my order and just noticed those were missing. I did e-mail Joyce with my correct mailing address.
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 07:54 PM
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Back on subject...

I just noticed tha GWS forgot the State and Zipcode in the address field of the forms they e-mailed out. Double check that before you fax anything.

I rushed to fax my order and just noticed those were missing. I did e-mail Joyce with my correct mailing address.
Your order will be mailed to someone in GUANTANAMO
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 07:57 PM
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it still had Orlando USA in the address....I wonder how many Orlando's in the USA there are???
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 08:07 PM
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it still had Orlando USA in the address....I wonder how many Orlando's in the USA there are???
The Following USA States has a City or Town known as ORLANDO

AR, KY, WV, FL, and OK

http://www.whitepages.com/10592/sear...caltime=survey
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 08:25 PM
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Joyce had stated in the email to me with the documents that I needed to check the zipcode and county.
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 09:22 PM
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Is it possable to fly this with a four channel?
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 09:32 PM
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Is it possable to fly this with a four channel?
What? Drop tanks
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