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Old Sep 12, 2010, 01:29 PM
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Guys,
Anyone have a super fast hobby king setup for the P-38?
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Old Sep 12, 2010, 01:35 PM
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Contact Jeff at headsuprc.com: that's where I got mine, and it's cheap!
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Old Sep 12, 2010, 01:48 PM
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Guys,
Anyone have a super fast hobby king setup for the P-38?
TP 2410-12 delta with GWS 10x6 props super simple 20 amp esc and a 3s 2200. About $30 total for motors and esc's. Look on youtube under my screen name here to se e mine fly.
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Old Sep 12, 2010, 04:11 PM
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I sort agree with Carrera above but I'm not sure if his was a typo as I would go with the TP 2409-12T not the 2410. The 09 is rated much higher than the 10, I've seen the 09 in a twin boom ME109 running 2x1000 3S in parallel with 8x4 props and it was pretty quick, only a shade slower than my 4S 600W p38. For more speed you can run a 7x6 or 8x8 just watch your amps. Seeing as this plane likes to be nose heavy, you can run your esc's in the booms hidden beneath the intakes, acts as counter balance without adding dead weight. You can use these towerpro 40A I used them in a Stryker for ages which pulled a constant 40A and the esc never had a problem, they're only $10 and probably one of the best 3S 40 ESC's I've used. Bang for buck you won't beat this setup, well over 400watts! Also don't try save a couple bucks by using the Turnigy equivalent brand bell motors which claim to be the same, they're not. I've had both and the turnigy died, replaced with the towerpro in the same setup and it's still going plus towerpro is rated a little higher. The only down side is the shafts can be a little weak but they're cheap enough, easy to change and HK carry them. Hope this helps, keep us posted how ya go....

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http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...unner_2409-12T

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I've run the 2409-12's in my P-38 - very fast. And also in my smaller GWS warbirds. The caution is that thses motors are REALLY hungry - ~200 watts per and they will kill a battery unless you size one correctly. You can also get the Turnigy 2409 version for $6 < http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...idproduct=6614 >

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No, I meant the TP2410-12 delta. I'll have to give the TP2409-12 a try.
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Old Sep 12, 2010, 07:15 PM
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I've run the 2409-12's in my P-38 - very fast. And also in my smaller GWS warbirds. The caution is that thses motors are REALLY hungry - ~200 watts per and they will kill a battery unless you size one correctly. You can also get the Turnigy 2409 version for $6 < http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...idproduct=6614 >

Jim
Jim not worth getting the turnigy, I was warned to spend the WHOLE extra $3 to get the towerpro and didn't listen and my turnigy died DOH!, ....then went and got the towerpro...still going strong
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Can you tell me what motor's your running to get 600w? I'm assuming that's validated against a watt meter or some other device? The motor's you listed below are only rated at 200 and I'm sure they probabbly over rated at that? I'd love to go for 600W+ I've got a 600W+ GWS 190 with a 35-42 1250kv and that motor is HUGE compared to 2409.

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I sort agree with Carrera above but I'm not sure if his was a typo as I would go with the TP 2409-12T not the 2410. The 09 is rated much higher than the 10, I've seen the 09 in a twin boom ME109 running 2x1000 3S in parallel with 8x4 props and it was pretty quick, only a shade slower than my 4S 600W p38. For more speed you can run a 7x6 or 8x8 just watch your amps. Seeing as this plane likes to be nose heavy, you can run your esc's in the booms hidden beneath the intakes, acts as counter balance without adding dead weight. You can use these towerpro 40A I used them in a Stryker for ages which pulled a constant 40A and the esc never had a problem, they're only $10 and probably one of the best 3S 40 ESC's I've used. Bang for buck you won't beat this setup, well over 400watts! Also don't try save a couple bucks by using the Turnigy equivalent brand bell motors which claim to be the same, they're not. I've had both and the turnigy died, replaced with the towerpro in the same setup and it's still going plus towerpro is rated a little higher. The only down side is the shafts can be a little weak but they're cheap enough, easy to change and HK carry them. Hope this helps, keep us posted how ya go....

John

http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...unner_2409-12T

http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...ed_Controller_
I had another quesiton do the various kits come with diffrent types of foam? For example does the non painted kit(NPS White) have a diffrent foam than the silver or green version?

I was planning on using this motor.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=5244 It seems a bit bigger than the 2409

Are there any problems fitting a 2200mah battery? What other batteries are you guys using?
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I don't know what he was kind of P-38 he was running for 600watts but, after pasting several P-38 due to a motor failure, I'm kind of thinking my next one will be well powered but not going to be pushing my motors for he sake of watts.

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Old Sep 15, 2010, 06:54 AM
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Can you tell me what motor's your running to get 600w? I'm assuming that's validated against a watt meter or some other device? The motor's you listed below are only rated at 200 and I'm sure they probabbly over rated at that? I'd love to go for 600W+ I've got a 600W+ GWS 190 with a 35-42 1250kv and that motor is HUGE compared to 2409.



I had another quesiton do the various kits come with diffrent types of foam? For example does the non painted kit(NPS White) have a diffrent foam than the silver or green version?

I was planning on using this motor.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=5244 It seems a bit bigger than the 2409

Are there any problems fitting a 2200mah battery? What other batteries are you guys using?
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I don't know what he was kind of P-38 he was running for 600watts but, after pasting several P-38 due to a motor failure, I'm kind of thinking my next one will be well powered but not going to be pushing my motors for he sake of watts.

Jim
I'm run a 4S not 3S system with twin 830kv motors that are well withing their rating which allows me to get 600Watts and that was using a wattmeter. I always test my motor prop combos before installing them into planes/EDFs, that way I know what ESC to run and what kind of performance to expect. I've got pics and links on the previous page, also I'm using 3blade props which aren't as efficient as the 2 blade so will draw a little more.....but they look WAY cool!
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Sounds good now if you would only tell us what motor's your using you would make a lot of us very happy. I'd like to do a 600w p-38 too

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I'm run a 4S not 3S system with twin 830kv motors that are well withing their rating which allows me to get 600Watts and that was using a wattmeter. I always test my motor prop combos before installing them into planes/EDFs, that way I know what ESC to run and what kind of performance to expect. I've got pics and links on the previous page, also I'm using 3blade props which aren't as efficient as the 2 blade so will draw a little more.....but they look WAY cool!
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 05:03 PM
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Sounds good now if you would only tell us what motor's your using you would make a lot of us very happy. I'd like to do a 600w p-38 too
My post on the previous page has the link to the motors
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Old Oct 07, 2010, 12:15 AM
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Finally got the video done and posted hope you enjoy

P-38 Lightning (by GWS) FLIGHT & Box Review (9 min 54 sec)
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Old Oct 07, 2010, 03:44 AM
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Hi Jbc,

Thank you very much for this nice video and your comments.

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