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Old Aug 21, 2006, 05:11 PM   #1
Colin
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The Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

The Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur
ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

The full HORRIFIC video can be seen here. Please use ADULT CAUTION in
the presence of children.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://www.peta2.com/takecharge/swf/fur_farm.swf


-----------------------------------------------------------
Full report by
Dennis Chong


Animal rights groups have called for an embargo on fur produced on the
mainland in light of an investigation that exposed the daily
operations of Chinese fur farms - with video footage showing animals
skinned alive.

Shocked local and international activists say the findings provide new
evidence that people of conscience should not wear fur, and that the
legitimacy of the fur trade in Hong Kong - one of the mainland's major
partners re-exporting 80 percent of its fur - should be reviewed.

The calls came after the 2005 Hong Kong International Fur and Fashion
Fair ended on Monday, which local fur dealers heralded as evidence of
strong growth in demand for Hong Kong fur products.

A total of 172 exhibitors, including 72 from 13 countries,
participated in the four-day event.

But the video footage - which shows batteries of animals trapped in
cage rows and a raccoon dog, hung on its hind legs, being skinned - is
fast gaining attention with digitalized video clips being circulated
rapidly over the Internet.

The investigation's findings re-freshed the decade-long battle between
activists and the multibillion-dollar business, with local dealers
rebuffing the probe as over-generalizing the situation and one that
``will not help to improve animal welfare.''

Swiss Animal Protection, Britain's Care for the Wild and East
International jointly conducted a probe into the mainland fur farming
business last year and recently released a 15-page report.

The investigation, for which undercover activists visited several
farms in the northeastern Hebei province, holding from 50 to 6,000
animals, found ``animals were universally handled roughly and confined
to rows of inappropriate, small wire cages.''

``Animals are stunned with repeated blows to the head or swung against
the ground,'' the report says.

``Starting from the hind legs, workers then wrench the animals' skin
from their suspended bodies, until it comes off over the head ... a
significant number of animals remain fully conscious during this
process.''

Calling the findings ``horrendous,'' the three groups called on the
mainland to immediately outlaw inhumane slaughtering methods and the
European Parliament to ban the import of products made of mainland
fur.

The report also states Hong Kong is the biggest exporter of mainland
fur, taking 80 percent of the trade.

``I am at a loss to explain what goes through the mind of those people
who do not care if they have killed an animal or just rendered it
unconscious. How can you justify skinning an animal while it is still
conscious?'' asked Mark Rissi, a Swiss Animal Protection campaigner
and an author of the report.


He said the findings have spurred outrage in Switzerland with three
department store chains stopping the sale of textiles with fur
trimmings originating from China.

Cynthia Su, director of London-based East International, declined to
say how the investigators entered the farms, only saying it was made
possible through ``international efforts'' and that the videos were
shot inside the farms.

Hong Kong Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals' deputy
director, Fiona Woodhouse, said ``a large amount of the world's fur
productions have effectively relocated to China where cheap labor and
lack of regulations have allowed production to become more
cost-effective.''


About 85 percent of the world's fur items originate from farms. While
Scandinavian and Eastern European farms have taken the brunt of
accusations, the burgeoning mainland sector is receiving growing
attention as it starts to dominate the world's market.

``Sensationalized campaigns are not the solution,'' the Hong Kong Fur
Federation said in response to the report.

While a growing number of mainland fur farmers are introducing
``Western standards,'' it said, the report's conclusion provides a
``sweeping generalization'' about the situation in China.

The federation also refutes the claim that the majority of fur
produced in Chinese farms is exported overseas, saying the vast
majority of exported fur products are made of European or North
American skins, and that items produced locally are for domestic use.

It says the key to improving animal welfare is to allow access of
local fur products to the international market and improve the
livelihood of fur farmers.

Despite several approaches by The Standard, the federation refused to
elaborate on its statement and clarify Hong Kong's role in handling
mainland fur - given pelts undergo a number of processes, often in
various countries, before reaching consumers.


According to mainland Customs, which was quoted in the report, the net
volume of fur imports and exports in China hit US$997.6 million
(HK$7.8 billion) in 2003, up 42.5 percent from the previous year.

While more than 95 percent of the fur clothing is sold overseas, 80
percent of the trade is handled by the SAR, the report says. Hong Kong
exports in the sector hit HK$3 billion last year, a growth of 31
percent from 2003.


http://www.careforthewild.com/files/..._paginated.pdf

Swiss Animal Protection SAP
http://www.animal-protection.net/fur..._fur_china.pdf

Photographs
See some of more then 500 photos from inside China´s fur farms.
http://www.animal-protection.net/

HSUS
http://tinyurl.com/8xc58

Fir is dead.
http://www.furisdead.com/feat/ChineseFurFarms/
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 05:11 PM   #2
ginge
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Re: The Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

In article <os5ke2ds8qktdamrd8kcduk4re92967g0u@4ax.com>, seeker@2123.com
says...
> The Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur
> ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.
>
> The full HORRIFIC video can be seen here. Please use ADULT CAUTION in
> the presence of children.
>
> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


ooooh?

> http....


Thanks for the off topic post, Colin. I couldn't look though as it
sounded a bit too gory.

Do you have a url for anywhere I can buy panda skin boots online?
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 07:11 PM   #3
steve auvache
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Re: The Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

catkin wrote
>anyone know if skin is fuelproof or will i still have to give it a layer of
>varnish?


Neatsfoot oil used to be the preferred proofing technology but
unfortunately the Neat Protection League has all but managed to stop the
hunting of them now and they simply cannot be persuaded to breed in
captivity which means supplies are limited and very expensive. It is
rumoured that some ex-pats in Spain have quite a stockpile but you never
see any on ebay so I think it is all a load of bollox.


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Old Aug 21, 2006, 07:11 PM   #4
Soylent Green
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Re: The Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

Colin wrote:

> The Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur
> ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.


So what? It grows back.

>
> Fir is dead.


Bastard. He's having a go at the trees now.

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Old Aug 21, 2006, 09:11 PM   #5
The Natural Philosopher
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Re: The Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for Chinafur ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

Colin wrote:
> The Proof as animals are skinned alive.


Plonk

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Old Aug 21, 2006, 09:11 PM   #6
Rob Kemp
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Re: The Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

I always thought that PETA stood for People Eating Tasty Animals, but I may
be wrong..............


"Colin" <seeker@2123.com> wrote in message
newss5ke2ds8qktdamrd8kcduk4re92967g0u@4ax.com...
> The Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur
> ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.
>
> The full HORRIFIC video can be seen here. Please use ADULT CAUTION in
> the presence of children.
>
> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> http://www.peta2.com/takecharge/swf/fur_farm.swf
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Full report by
> Dennis Chong
>
>
> Animal rights groups have called for an embargo on fur produced on the
> mainland in light of an investigation that exposed the daily
> operations of Chinese fur farms - with video footage showing animals
> skinned alive.
>
> Shocked local and international activists say the findings provide new
> evidence that people of conscience should not wear fur, and that the
> legitimacy of the fur trade in Hong Kong - one of the mainland's major
> partners re-exporting 80 percent of its fur - should be reviewed.
>
> The calls came after the 2005 Hong Kong International Fur and Fashion
> Fair ended on Monday, which local fur dealers heralded as evidence of
> strong growth in demand for Hong Kong fur products.
>
> A total of 172 exhibitors, including 72 from 13 countries,
> participated in the four-day event.
>
> But the video footage - which shows batteries of animals trapped in
> cage rows and a raccoon dog, hung on its hind legs, being skinned - is
> fast gaining attention with digitalized video clips being circulated
> rapidly over the Internet.
>
> The investigation's findings re-freshed the decade-long battle between
> activists and the multibillion-dollar business, with local dealers
> rebuffing the probe as over-generalizing the situation and one that
> ``will not help to improve animal welfare.''
>
> Swiss Animal Protection, Britain's Care for the Wild and East
> International jointly conducted a probe into the mainland fur farming
> business last year and recently released a 15-page report.
>
> The investigation, for which undercover activists visited several
> farms in the northeastern Hebei province, holding from 50 to 6,000
> animals, found ``animals were universally handled roughly and confined
> to rows of inappropriate, small wire cages.''
>
> ``Animals are stunned with repeated blows to the head or swung against
> the ground,'' the report says.
>
> ``Starting from the hind legs, workers then wrench the animals' skin
> from their suspended bodies, until it comes off over the head ... a
> significant number of animals remain fully conscious during this
> process.''
>
> Calling the findings ``horrendous,'' the three groups called on the
> mainland to immediately outlaw inhumane slaughtering methods and the
> European Parliament to ban the import of products made of mainland
> fur.
>
> The report also states Hong Kong is the biggest exporter of mainland
> fur, taking 80 percent of the trade.
>
> ``I am at a loss to explain what goes through the mind of those people
> who do not care if they have killed an animal or just rendered it
> unconscious. How can you justify skinning an animal while it is still
> conscious?'' asked Mark Rissi, a Swiss Animal Protection campaigner
> and an author of the report.
>
>
> He said the findings have spurred outrage in Switzerland with three
> department store chains stopping the sale of textiles with fur
> trimmings originating from China.
>
> Cynthia Su, director of London-based East International, declined to
> say how the investigators entered the farms, only saying it was made
> possible through ``international efforts'' and that the videos were
> shot inside the farms.
>
> Hong Kong Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals' deputy
> director, Fiona Woodhouse, said ``a large amount of the world's fur
> productions have effectively relocated to China where cheap labor and
> lack of regulations have allowed production to become more
> cost-effective.''
>
>
> About 85 percent of the world's fur items originate from farms. While
> Scandinavian and Eastern European farms have taken the brunt of
> accusations, the burgeoning mainland sector is receiving growing
> attention as it starts to dominate the world's market.
>
> ``Sensationalized campaigns are not the solution,'' the Hong Kong Fur
> Federation said in response to the report.
>
> While a growing number of mainland fur farmers are introducing
> ``Western standards,'' it said, the report's conclusion provides a
> ``sweeping generalization'' about the situation in China.
>
> The federation also refutes the claim that the majority of fur
> produced in Chinese farms is exported overseas, saying the vast
> majority of exported fur products are made of European or North
> American skins, and that items produced locally are for domestic use.
>
> It says the key to improving animal welfare is to allow access of
> local fur products to the international market and improve the
> livelihood of fur farmers.
>
> Despite several approaches by The Standard, the federation refused to
> elaborate on its statement and clarify Hong Kong's role in handling
> mainland fur - given pelts undergo a number of processes, often in
> various countries, before reaching consumers.
>
>
> According to mainland Customs, which was quoted in the report, the net
> volume of fur imports and exports in China hit US$997.6 million
> (HK$7.8 billion) in 2003, up 42.5 percent from the previous year.
>
> While more than 95 percent of the fur clothing is sold overseas, 80
> percent of the trade is handled by the SAR, the report says. Hong Kong
> exports in the sector hit HK$3 billion last year, a growth of 31
> percent from 2003.
>
>
> http://www.careforthewild.com/files/..._paginated.pdf
>
> Swiss Animal Protection SAP
> http://www.animal-protection.net/fur..._fur_china.pdf
>
> Photographs
> See some of more then 500 photos from inside China´s fur farms.
> http://www.animal-protection.net/
>
> HSUS
> http://tinyurl.com/8xc58
>
> Fir is dead.
> http://www.furisdead.com/feat/ChineseFurFarms/



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Old Aug 21, 2006, 11:11 PM   #7
Grimly Curmudgeon
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
saying something like:

>
>What Ho grimly...didn';t expect to see YOU in this Xposting...


Hello, NP. The tosser's posted it all over usenet by the look of it.

I can understand his revulsion at the cat and dogskin trade that's
carried on in China, but it's old news. They've been doing it for years
and will carry on doing it as long as there's a buck to be made. Couple
of years ago I saw a German-made docu about it shown on telly here
(Ireland) and it was pretty repulsive, but I didn't feel the need to
rush out and spam every ng I could find.

Anyway, what would the Koreans eat?
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 11:11 PM   #8
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In article <kumke29kerh240rhje3495bi70obejns0a@4ax.com>,
Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

> Anyway, what would the Koreans eat?


Rotten cabbage.

HTH

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Old Aug 21, 2006, 11:11 PM   #9
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muddy wrote:
> In article <kumke29kerh240rhje3495bi70obejns0a@4ax.com>,
> Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyway, what would the Koreans eat?

>
> Rotten cabbage.


I'd sooner eat a bushel of kimchee than one balut...

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Old Aug 22, 2006, 03:11 AM   #10
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Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

> I can understand his revulsion at the cat and dogskin trade that's
> carried on in China, but it's old news.



Indeed it is.

First World War fighter pilots' goggles were made from dogskin. The best
came from Nuchwang, China.[1]

So the prick is only, oh, 90 years late.

[1] Source: Denis Winter, The First Of The Few.


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Old Aug 22, 2006, 05:11 AM   #11
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steve auvache wrote:
catkin wrote
>> anyone know if skin is fuelproof or will i still have to give it a
>> layer of varnish?

>
> Neatsfoot oil used to be the preferred proofing technology but
> unfortunately the Neat Protection League has all but managed to stop
> the hunting of them now and they simply cannot be persuaded to breed
> in captivity which means supplies are limited and very expensive. It
> is rumoured that some ex-pats in Spain have quite a stockpile but you
> never see any on ebay so I think it is all a load of bollox.


Spookily, just before reading your bollox, if you take my meaning, I was
hunting round for something in garage when I came upon my secret supply of
this fabled liquid.
1.5 litres would soften & proof a good dozen moggies I would have thought[1]

[1]Assuming one were of the 'Only proof a dead moggy' brigade.

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Old Aug 22, 2006, 09:11 AM   #12
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Re: The Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember
chateau.murraySPAMKILL@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) saying
something like:

>First World War fighter pilots' goggles were made from dogskin


That's ruff.
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Old Aug 22, 2006, 01:11 PM   #13
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:37:26 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
<grimly4REMOVE@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>drugs began to take hold. I remember
>chateau.murraySPAMKILL@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) saying
>something like:
>
>>First World War fighter pilots' goggles were made from dogskin

>
>That's ruff.


Was that why they called it 'dog-fighting'?.....(ouch, that hurt!)






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Old Aug 22, 2006, 05:11 PM   #14
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Colin wrote:

> The Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur
> ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.


I know it's bad to feed trollsand cross post but this is kind of on
topic for both the OP and bikers.

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/11...Unluckier_Deer

Not Safe For Deer.

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Old Aug 22, 2006, 07:11 PM   #15
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"Cane" <CaneUKRM@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Not Safe For Deer.
>


urgh!


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