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Old Jan 27, 2013, 09:50 AM
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A little flying with my Afriel. I`m just a "sunday" flier, but must say that Andycap has done a very well flying model. The first indoor plane I comfortebly does knife edge loopings with. It feels like it`s on rails!!

Thank you Andy!


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Auw with NanoTec 260 2s is ~105 grams.
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Old Feb 08, 2013, 01:13 AM
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Hi guys.
I need your help. I lost plans to morback, where I note-I and COG. I rebuilt all calculations Cog last night and I went out to 70mm from the leading edge, or 77mm. to you like?

Thank you and waiting for a response from you
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 06:54 AM
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I had CG at carbon spar location in the wing.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 01:44 PM
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First F3P plane

Here's my Afriel Evo, ~860mm wingspan.

Turned out a bit portly, even with 2mm Depron Aero. Couldn't follow plans exactly, but did the best I could, with available materials. ~136grams all-up without battery.

Confirmed my belief that I'm just a lousy pilot, this is too much plane for me, at least in our indoor space. I'm going to step back for a while and practice more on other planes, before I destroy all this work.

A few of the many things I learned: Using good servos is a treat, been using cheap stuff until this build. Love the shrink-tube control rod connections, solid and super slop-free. Need proper carbon-fiber hardware, light-ply just doesn't cut it at this level. Really good batteries necessary to provide enough power without being too heavy. Too much glue = too much weight.

Many thanks to AndyCap for such a great plane, free plans, and EXCELLENT build instructions.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 01:51 PM
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Here's my Afriel Evo, ~860mm wingspan.

Turned out a bit portly, even with 2mm Depron Aero. Couldn't follow plans exactly, but did the best I could, with available materials. ~136grams all-up without battery.

Confirmed my belief that I'm just a lousy pilot, this is too much plane for me, at least in our indoor space. I'm going to step back for a while and practice more on other planes, before I destroy all this work.

A few of the many things I learned: Using good servos is a treat, been using cheap stuff until this build. Love the shrink-tube control rod connections, solid and super slop-free. Need proper carbon-fiber hardware, light-ply just doesn't cut it at this level. Really good batteries necessary to provide enough power without being too heavy. Too much glue = too much weight.

Many thanks to AndyCap for such a great plane, free plans, and EXCELLENT build instructions.
Nice work Glen 136g isnt a bad weight at all considering 2mm depron is only a couple fo grams lighter than 3mm depron. Connor flies his Afriel Evo at 185g! does have some pretty meaty servos and an axi race though. Even so its still happy in a single basketball court
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 08:11 PM
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Thinking about to start to build Morback F3P. Already have material and carbon. Can anybody suggest what kind of motor, ESC, batteries and servos the best choice for this model? About the servos I can imagine that it should be something like 5 grams, ESC approx. 10A, but what about the motor, battery and prop?

Thanks in advance
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 08:06 AM
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I'm building the index from the first post out of 6mm depron. I'm going to be flying outdoors and need a motor suggestion. I don't really understand the weight and kv mixture that I would need. I'm assuming the the plane will be around 9-12oz flying weight. I'm also using a 3cell. Also are there any changes to the design that I should make?
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Old Mar 15, 2013, 02:08 AM
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I am a heli guy that just discovered VPP. 4D Morback is on the way now! Thanks for the plans!
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Cool! Post pictures!

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P.S. Are you using a Mamo?
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Old Mar 15, 2013, 12:35 PM
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I am a heli guy that just discovered VPP. 4D Morback is on the way now! Thanks for the plans!
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Old Mar 24, 2013, 07:55 AM
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Simple Sim plans
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...7#post24502833
simple sym f3p (1 min 49 sec)
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Old May 05, 2013, 10:41 AM
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Hello EPPers!

2 or 3 years ago I re-sized and 'tiled' a number of plans including the Afriel which was a great plane. I've been flying F3A mostly but want to build some new Epp's. Are there any favourites out there? Also if you have a rough design, I more than happy to draw it up for you to put on the list.

All the best
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Old Oct 21, 2013, 02:58 PM
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Here is a drawings of my own F3P AM design the FOX with this model fly my Aeromusicals at the moment


Here is a picture of the first version



and the free plan of version 1 is found here




Free plan FOX V1.PDF http://home.planet.nl/~vos08757/Downloads/FOX V1.pdf



Free plan FOX V1.DWG http://home.planet.nl/~vos08757/Downloads/FOXV1.zip



Free plan FOX V1.DXF http://home.planet.nl/~vos08757/Downloads/FOXV1d.zip





And here is Version 2






Free plan FOX V2.PDF http://home.planet.nl/~vos08757/Downloads/FOX%20AM.pdf

Free plan FOX V2.DWG http://home.planet.nl/~vos08757/Downloads/FOXV4d.zip

Free plan FOX V2.DXF http://home.planet.nl/~vos08757/Downloads/FOXV4.zip

both planes fly with a Center of gravety of 113mm

and the

ailron trow of 55 tot 60 degrees
elavater trow of 65 tot 70 degrees
Rudder trow als maxium as possible

65% expo on all




Please i like to know which version do you like it and how it is flying
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Old Oct 23, 2013, 09:20 AM
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Love it!!!

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My Afriel Evo

hope you like it
Daniel, fantastic flight!

That rudder certainly kicks in. The thing I love about this design is the simplicity, no canalizer or additional vertical surfaces. Granted, it does speed up a little on down lines, (maybe brake the ESC?) but the cleaner the better and you've done a great job. Tell me, does the airbrushing put on much weight? Cheers Dylan
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