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Old Jul 16, 2006, 07:49 AM
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Non Skid

How can I make this stuff? I want to make my decks have this stuff first but I dont want to make it look like sand paper. I tried putting sugar(makes a mess) salt (looks like sandpaper) and some dirt(too big of bumps for my ship but looked ok) on top of some grey paint then painting over the above items.
Any other ideas on how to get the right texture?

I am working on a 1:90 scale ship the Zwarte Zee and I plan to make the areas that are supposed to be wood into the non skid stuff.

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Old Jul 16, 2006, 07:59 AM
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Wit a scale that small seems like flat paint would work, but in any case for the textured non skid look use 500 or smaller grit sandpaper glued in place. If painting a different color, it's best to airbrush for grain that small will dissappear using a brush.
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Old Jul 16, 2006, 08:12 AM
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yea I thought about glueing the paper down but i wanted to avoid going that rout. I thought about rubbing 400-500 grit paper together over the wet paint tho and see if that gets enough "dust" to get a good texture. Maybe I will try that tomorrow (on duty again cant get off the ship till then). Any other ideas?

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Old Jul 16, 2006, 08:47 AM
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In that scale, anything other than flat paint will look a little odd. What might be a little rise to your eye would actually be a major "bump" (inches-feet) in that scale. On larger scale models that I have built I use a spray on epoxy nonskid found at marine stores.
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Old Jul 16, 2006, 10:15 AM
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I use a product called Firm Foot. It is an epoxy spray with fine grit that I find is just right for models in this scale. It is produced by Forrest Paint Products located in Eugene Oregon and the phone number on the can is (541)342-1821 for further information or google Firm Foot. Jerry J
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Old Jul 16, 2006, 12:09 PM
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You could use self adhesive sand paper,eliminates glueing.Pre-cut the pieces to the deck lay out, and paint before installing
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Old Jul 16, 2006, 12:16 PM
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try n scale gravel put on wet paint. then paint again. if n scale is to big use z
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Old Jul 16, 2006, 01:16 PM
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Wingnut, As a model railroader I know the size of the N scale ballast. I actually use the N scale stuff for my HO railroad cause it looks more like real ballast. Take an HO scale figure and put his feet up to the N scale stuff then the HO stuff and see what one looks like real ballast stones and what one looks like landscaping rocks . I have not seen any smaller ballast than Fine(N scale) in my catalogs or hobby stores. I was trying tho to do as you said put the stuff on the wet paint then apply the paint again but the stuff I was trying with did not work too well. I will keep trying

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Old Jul 16, 2006, 05:59 PM
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I haven't tried it, but micro-balloons might be fine and consistent enough.

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Old Jul 16, 2006, 08:45 PM
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I used Plasti-Kote Fleck stone paint, her are some pics,
the Jim Wilder has it on the deck it's a gray, the Envoy has it below the water line it's a red. you can get it in several deferent colors.
It's not water proff but it is water resestant, I put Plasi-Kote clear water proff over it, it's still not water proff but it redries, it gets loose after about 1 1/2 hours in the water one the Envoy, haven't had a problem with the Jim Wilders decks. The barge deck is a brown, they spray can does not say what the color is, the cap has been painted so you can pick what you want. LOL
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Old Jul 17, 2006, 07:24 AM
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how about durt, that is finer. i'm putting all my ho on ebay.
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Old Jul 17, 2006, 08:23 AM
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Massey,
I found a way that was stated in my model slipway boat instructions thats you get a flat can of paint brush type that has been sitting on the self for awhile and DONT SHAKE OR STIR and pour off the thin paint on top and get to the settlements on the bottom and use a short stiff brush and stab straight down the paint to the surface dont stroke it stab at it only.
you will have to go over several times but this does look great.

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Old Jul 17, 2006, 08:55 AM
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Non-Skid markings

At the scale you're building, for non-skid parhway or to replicate the fuill-scale strips of black non-skid surface, masked-off flat black paint is what you want. The actual full-scale surface would be (at the thickest) 1/16" to 1/8", so trying to do that 90 times thinner, or looking at the real thing from 100 ft away, (eyeballing it in scale perspective) you would only see a flattened area, certainly no 'texture' or grit.
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Old Jul 17, 2006, 08:56 AM
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I don't remember why I did this (it wasn't for non-skid walkways), but in order to get a gritty surface, I used white glue and sprinkled sand on it. Then you could probably paint that. (You'll probably want to use something better than white glue; it was forever dropping sand granules.)
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