MSComposite Swift II

IceWind · Jul 10, 2006, 07:14 AM

Hi to all Swift II owners.
I got one of these wings and i'm building it.
I gathered some friends ideas and started.
I'll be using a brushed 400 motor it's not the best but i'm trying to give some use to old stuff i got at home.
But for that i needed to make some changes.
Here some photos:

euromodels · Jul 10, 2006, 07:40 AM

Hi Ice Wind, I had one with a small MPJet outrunner. An AXI 2208/26 is a better option, but it flyes great even with my setup.
Good luck with it.
Zdenek

IceWind · Jul 10, 2006, 08:05 AM

It looks great!

I bet that outrunner makes the wing really fly!!!
What battery are you using?
The only Axi i have avaiable is a 2208/34 i think, i'm no sure. But i guess i'll upgrade it from the speed 400 to an outrunner too.
It was with that in mind that i made that motor mount. (3x that in a sentence, doesn't rcgroups have a spellchecker?

...it should )

euromodels · Jul 10, 2006, 08:26 AM

You need something about 1400KV. I think an AXI2208/34 is too slow (1100KV). The MPJet I am using has 1400KV, AXI 2208/26 - 1420KV.
I used APC 8x3.8 and GWS 8x6 props. GWS is a better option, it is very flexible and doesn't break when you land. Battery: 7.2V/1500-2000mAh Lipo.
I got about 40 minuts from the bigger battery, 1500mAh is about what you need.

IceWind · Jul 10, 2006, 04:26 PM

I got some etec 7,4V - 1700mah and gws 11,1v - 1300mah .
But has i'm using the speed 400 i need something to make this motor alive so i'll try the 11,1v.
The prop will be a 5043 fro gws.
I hope i can make it fly, i'm being helped by a great friend if not i would have messed this all up!

euromodels · Jul 10, 2006, 08:15 PM

It is easy to fly and can survive a few crashes.

IceWind · Jul 13, 2006, 07:56 AM

An here it is, ready to fly.
I had to change the motor, the 400 i had was a litle stuck and i had another brand new.
I've tested it to see if it has enough trust and it seems so, holding it prop facing down about a bit more than half it starts to want go up.

IceWind · Jul 17, 2006, 09:51 PM

Finally the maiden.
It flys perfectly it's awesome!!!
It really can glides at low speed, and if i push the throtle forward it gains speed very quickly and even going vert. Despite the motor be a 400 brushed the performance is great.

Have a look at the maiden flight.

Click here to watch Swift2-maiden

ciberjohn · Aug 16, 2006, 11:49 AM

LOL..olha o Nando!
Well. I have one to, with a thundertiger 2928/09 and a 8X6 prop. It flys grate, only my 4 gws 3s 1300mah packs only have 6c....will try to upgrade pack to my wing.

ciberjohn · Aug 19, 2006, 07:51 PM

Because of IceWind I bought one, as you already know, and I ealready have it on tape ( thanks to IceWind ): http://www.ciberjohn.com/gal/display...?album=4&pos=1

IceWind · Aug 25, 2006, 12:16 PM

We are starting a Swift club over here!

The number of owners of them is increasing.

submarco · Aug 28, 2006, 08:09 AM

I have thye swift powered by a df300 and 3s 860 lipo That's defenetivelñy my favorite wing.
With a gunther prop goes vertical unlimited, not extremely fast,defenetively not speed rocket but it flies failry rapid and above all slows down more than my IFO.
Plus thermals better than my easyglider.

karakoram · Oct 11, 2006, 07:06 PM

What are the specs on the swift?

AUW in ounces?
Wing span?
wing area in Sq In. ?
Wing loading?

Thanks!

Phiber Optik · Dec 06, 2006, 08:14 PM

I just ran across these wings today....awesome selection of graphics, and for $35 I can't believe that people aren't all over these things.

db1 · Dec 07, 2006, 01:11 AM

I was thinking the same thing when I saw them for sale at the JR Indoor Festival. I bought one but I'm not sure when I'll get around to installing the electronics. A quick test fit finds that the servo bays are cut just a little farther away than the servo wires are long.

Oh well, I'll have to break out the iron I guess.

I was thinking of using a light slow setup. I have a power system left over from an old Slofly Micro 22. Slow with good acceleration. Might not work but I'm going to try it anyway.

db

Jul 10, 2006, 07:14 AM	#1
IceWind IceTea was already taken. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 379	MSComposite Swift II Hi to all Swift II owners. I got one of these wings and i'm building it. I gathered some friends ideas and started. I'll be using a brushed 400 motor it's not the best but i'm trying to give some use to old stuff i got at home. But for that i needed to make some changes. Here some photos: Attached Thumbnails The motor mount i've made in 2mm ply using the original one has template. 38.5 KB · Views: 1457 The motor assembly, i've used some parts of the original mount for outrunners. 43.2 KB · Views: 1510 It's going to stay like this on the wing. 34.2 KB · Views: 1508 I had to cut a piece on the wing, so the motor be inserted in it, and won't stay much out, creating problems to balance it on the specified COG. 35.5 KB · Views: 1043 The motor and mount in place. 36.7 KB · Views: 1623 The motor fit's almost in the midle of the wing. I hope this makes it do some perfect rolls! :) 22.8 KB · Views: 1304

Jul 10, 2006, 07:40 AM	#2
euromodels Real models, not toys. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 256	Hi Ice Wind, I had one with a small MPJet outrunner. An AXI 2208/26 is a better option, but it flyes great even with my setup. Good luck with it. Zdenek Attached Thumbnails 55.9 KB · Views: 2090 53.9 KB · Views: 1790 52.1 KB · Views: 2933

Jul 13, 2006, 07:56 AM	#7
IceWind IceTea was already taken. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 379	An here it is, ready to fly. I had to change the motor, the 400 i had was a litle stuck and i had another brand new. I've tested it to see if it has enough trust and it seems so, holding it prop facing down about a bit more than half it starts to want go up. Attached Thumbnails 32.0 KB · Views: 2269

Aug 16, 2006, 11:49 AM	#9
ciberjohn Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 52	LOL..olha o Nando! Well. I have one to, with a thundertiger 2928/09 and a 8X6 prop. It flys grate, only my 4 gws 3s 1300mah packs only have 6c....will try to upgrade pack to my wing. Last edited by ciberjohn; Aug 16, 2006 at 11:54 AM.

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Jul 10, 2006, 08:05 AM	#3
IceWind IceTea was already taken. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 379	It looks great! I bet that outrunner makes the wing really fly!!! What battery are you using? The only Axi i have avaiable is a 2208/34 i think, i'm no sure. But i guess i'll upgrade it from the speed 400 to an outrunner too. It was with that in mind that i made that motor mount. (3x that in a sentence, doesn't rcgroups have a spellchecker? ...it should )

Jul 10, 2006, 08:26 AM	#4
euromodels Real models, not toys. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 256	You need something about 1400KV. I think an AXI2208/34 is too slow (1100KV). The MPJet I am using has 1400KV, AXI 2208/26 - 1420KV. I used APC 8x3.8 and GWS 8x6 props. GWS is a better option, it is very flexible and doesn't break when you land. Battery: 7.2V/1500-2000mAh Lipo. I got about 40 minuts from the bigger battery, 1500mAh is about what you need.

Jul 10, 2006, 04:26 PM	#5
IceWind IceTea was already taken. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 379	I got some etec 7,4V - 1700mah and gws 11,1v - 1300mah . But has i'm using the speed 400 i need something to make this motor alive so i'll try the 11,1v. The prop will be a 5043 fro gws. I hope i can make it fly, i'm being helped by a great friend if not i would have messed this all up!

Jul 10, 2006, 08:15 PM	#6
euromodels Real models, not toys. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 256	It is easy to fly and can survive a few crashes.

Jul 17, 2006, 09:51 PM	#8
IceWind IceTea was already taken. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 379	Finally the maiden. It flys perfectly it's awesome!!! It really can glides at low speed, and if i push the throtle forward it gains speed very quickly and even going vert. Despite the motor be a 400 brushed the performance is great. Have a look at the maiden flight. Click here to watch Swift2-maiden

Aug 19, 2006, 07:51 PM	#10
ciberjohn Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 52	Because of IceWind I bought one, as you already know, and I ealready have it on tape ( thanks to IceWind ): http://www.ciberjohn.com/gal/display...?album=4&pos=1

Aug 25, 2006, 12:16 PM	#11
IceWind IceTea was already taken. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 379	We are starting a Swift club over here! The number of owners of them is increasing.

Aug 28, 2006, 08:09 AM	#12
submarco ViruTs Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 773	I have thye swift powered by a df300 and 3s 860 lipo That's defenetivelñy my favorite wing. With a gunther prop goes vertical unlimited, not extremely fast,defenetively not speed rocket but it flies failry rapid and above all slows down more than my IFO. Plus thermals better than my easyglider.

Oct 11, 2006, 07:06 PM	#13
karakoram ImNotAPilotIJustPlay1onTV Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 753	What are the specs on the swift? AUW in ounces? Wing span? wing area in Sq In. ? Wing loading? Thanks!

Dec 06, 2006, 08:14 PM	#14
Phiber Optik Womb Drifter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, USA Posts: 1,121	I just ran across these wings today....awesome selection of graphics, and for $35 I can't believe that people aren't all over these things.

Dec 07, 2006, 01:11 AM	#15
db1 don betz Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 537	I was thinking the same thing when I saw them for sale at the JR Indoor Festival. I bought one but I'm not sure when I'll get around to installing the electronics. A quick test fit finds that the servo bays are cut just a little farther away than the servo wires are long. Oh well, I'll have to break out the iron I guess. I was thinking of using a light slow setup. I have a power system left over from an old Slofly Micro 22. Slow with good acceleration. Might not work but I'm going to try it anyway. db