Align Trex 600 - the Issue files - Page 4

RC Man · Jul 19, 2006, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BulletMaster

Anni....the links fit the balls, but not as tight as they should. But the biggest issue is the control rod sizing..TT uses 2.3mm wheras the Align are 2mm. So they don't fit

Why are they using such undersized rods? That standard for anything with 550mm blades is 2.3mm not 2.0mm. It’s obvious that Align has never designed a large helicopter.

geneween · Jul 19, 2006, 01:19 PM

Anni,

EP8, ECO8 and trex 450XL have the same ball size. OZ says the hirbo shuttle links fit both the ball and the link but are not as tight as the stock align ones are. According to Andy at Align USA the links on the 600 were designed to be a tight fit, if you look back a page or two it was mentioned. Not really sure if that means we can run a not so snug link or that the 600 will throw off anything less snug than stock

Gene

ozace · Jul 19, 2006, 05:55 PM

I have got a Hirobo shuttle link or 2 on at the moment. I prefer the way the Align links fit and roll but they keep braking. I think if i had my time over i would have used the Align links every where except the bell crank to swash, there i would have substituted TT rods and links. Really this will all be meaningless shortly as once spares become available from Align, none of this will matter.

RC has a great point. Why would Align go to 2mm rods when all other manufacturers seem to be going bigger and stronger.(2.3 and SS rods)

BulletMaster · Jul 19, 2006, 06:13 PM

ditto on the spares issue Ozace... But yep, agree, would have been nicer to use standard size control rods. Also, how did you feel about the depth of thread in the links from the control rod? I was thinking it ould be nicer to have 2-3mm more for the standard rod lengths. But they did thread nicely/realatively easily onto the rods.

J.W.S.4 · Jul 19, 2006, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnihilaT

About the links.... Would TT Raptor links fit? Has anyone tried yet? I have a few bags of those and i think when mine get here this week i will try using them instead.

Suggest Mikado links 2mm they seem to be bullet proof.

John

ozace · Jul 19, 2006, 06:41 PM

John , i went thru a logo kit i could only find 2.3mm links. Where are the 2mm one used ?

andy-align · Jul 19, 2006, 07:32 PM

Dear All:
We try to duplicate the ball link problem in here(USA), I try 30 of ball link still can't break any but I knew someone's broken. could you guys PM me which no. of ball link break(each one have No. on it!) it should be help us to find out is that the moding injection presure problem or not. Align Factory already enlarge the moding injection hole. it will let injection presure getting more equal in any angle!

but for this monent, if you have any ball link or radius arm broken. please e-mail to us at sales@alignrcusa.com and we can send some spare for you guys(only for US and Canada customer only! for oversea, please looking for local disb.)

Best Regards

Andy Yu
Assurance R/C(Align RC USA)

ozace · Jul 19, 2006, 07:34 PM

Andy, i like the way you do business. I wish our Dist took a leaf out of your book.

andy-align · Jul 19, 2006, 07:54 PM

Ozace:
thank you! but your local disb. in australia. was my best friend too. he is good guy. the only he lacked was more heli. experience! you can e-mail or phone him about your problem and for sure he will help you out!

ozace · Jul 19, 2006, 08:01 PM

Thanks Andy, i have been dealing with Paul since he started and he does try at least.

gpeden · Jul 19, 2006, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozace

John , i went thru a logo kit i could only find 2.3mm links. Where are the 2mm one used ?

Hi Ozace,

They are used on the tail rotor pushrod. FWIW, I'm using one along with its companion steel ball on my MaxiR's at the tail rotor servo in conjunction with the MaxiR 3-D pushrod.

ozace · Jul 19, 2006, 08:36 PM

Thanks Glen, i never looked there

dklassen · Jul 19, 2006, 11:05 PM

I've heard of a couple people that had pinions break apart in flight. Anyone had this issue?

BTY Andy,

When are the larger main gears hitting the stores?

J.W.S.4 · Jul 19, 2006, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozace

John , i went thru a logo kit i could only find 2.3mm links. Where are the 2mm one used ?

Ozace,

Glen is right the tail pushrod is 2mm. Its my understanding the 2 types of ball links in the Logo kits are 2mm and 2.5mm. I have yet to mic the inside of the link to be honest. So the 2.5 could very well be 2.3mm.

I am still waiting for my kit to get through customs. I'm hoping to see it this weekend. Its great to see Andy on the forums addressing the issue.

John

Flint · Jul 20, 2006, 04:51 AM

The 1st item wattsuprc will sell out when they finally get all the spares in stock is ball link ends

I check the site twice a day as I dont want to miss out on the 1st shipment. Cant be to much longer surely?

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Jul 19, 2006, 01:19 PM	#47
geneween Conformity Kill's Mission Viejo, CA Joined Nov 2005 2,796 Posts	Anni, EP8, ECO8 and trex 450XL have the same ball size. OZ says the hirbo shuttle links fit both the ball and the link but are not as tight as the stock align ones are. According to Andy at Align USA the links on the 600 were designed to be a tight fit, if you look back a page or two it was mentioned. Not really sure if that means we can run a not so snug link or that the 600 will throw off anything less snug than stock Gene

Jul 19, 2006, 05:55 PM	#48
ozace Renewed interest Melbourne , Australia Joined Jun 2002 8,946 Posts	I have got a Hirobo shuttle link or 2 on at the moment. I prefer the way the Align links fit and roll but they keep braking. I think if i had my time over i would have used the Align links every where except the bell crank to swash, there i would have substituted TT rods and links. Really this will all be meaningless shortly as once spares become available from Align, none of this will matter. RC has a great point. Why would Align go to 2mm rods when all other manufacturers seem to be going bigger and stronger.(2.3 and SS rods)

Jul 19, 2006, 06:13 PM	#49
BulletMaster Chillaxin dude! Newcastle, NSW, Australia Joined Apr 2003 4,620 Posts	ditto on the spares issue Ozace... But yep, agree, would have been nicer to use standard size control rods. Also, how did you feel about the depth of thread in the links from the control rod? I was thinking it ould be nicer to have 2-3mm more for the standard rod lengths. But they did thread nicely/realatively easily onto the rods.

Jul 19, 2006, 06:41 PM	#51
ozace Renewed interest Melbourne , Australia Joined Jun 2002 8,946 Posts	John , i went thru a logo kit i could only find 2.3mm links. Where are the 2mm one used ?

Jul 19, 2006, 07:32 PM	#52
andy-align Registered User Joined Jul 2006 3 Posts	Dear All: We try to duplicate the ball link problem in here(USA), I try 30 of ball link still can't break any but I knew someone's broken. could you guys PM me which no. of ball link break(each one have No. on it!) it should be help us to find out is that the moding injection presure problem or not. Align Factory already enlarge the moding injection hole. it will let injection presure getting more equal in any angle! but for this monent, if you have any ball link or radius arm broken. please e-mail to us at sales@alignrcusa.com and we can send some spare for you guys(only for US and Canada customer only! for oversea, please looking for local disb.) Best Regards Andy Yu Assurance R/C(Align RC USA)

Jul 19, 2006, 07:34 PM	#53
ozace Renewed interest Melbourne , Australia Joined Jun 2002 8,946 Posts	Andy, i like the way you do business. I wish our Dist took a leaf out of your book.

Jul 19, 2006, 07:54 PM	#54
andy-align Registered User Joined Jul 2006 3 Posts	Ozace: thank you! but your local disb. in australia. was my best friend too. he is good guy. the only he lacked was more heli. experience! you can e-mail or phone him about your problem and for sure he will help you out!

Jul 19, 2006, 08:01 PM	#55
ozace Renewed interest Melbourne , Australia Joined Jun 2002 8,946 Posts	Thanks Andy, i have been dealing with Paul since he started and he does try at least.

Jul 19, 2006, 08:36 PM	#57
ozace Renewed interest Melbourne , Australia Joined Jun 2002 8,946 Posts	Thanks Glen, i never looked there

Jul 19, 2006, 11:05 PM	#58
dklassen Registered User TN Joined Mar 2002 986 Posts	I've heard of a couple people that had pinions break apart in flight. Anyone had this issue? BTY Andy, When are the larger main gears hitting the stores?

Jul 20, 2006, 04:51 AM	#60
Flint Registered User Australia, ACT, Canberra Joined May 2001 1,791 Posts	The 1st item wattsuprc will sell out when they finally get all the spares in stock is ball link ends I check the site twice a day as I dont want to miss out on the 1st shipment. Cant be to much longer surely?