Looking for high-quality easy kit OR built sub

bos10 · Jun 27, 2006, 04:18 PM

I'm looking for a high-quality beginner kit that is easy to build. A Small World Models Blueback would be perfect (not looking to save any money, just remove the wait). Or a high-quality built/used sub. Needs to be scale military (WWII through current) and be a static diver.

rebuildit · Jun 27, 2006, 04:48 PM

I enjoyed the albacore from skip . at RCboats. I found the kit easy and fun to build. I think priced right too.

petn7 · Jun 27, 2006, 07:04 PM

I hear the ThorDesign Permit is a nice submarine

bcliffe · Jun 28, 2006, 08:50 AM

All the boats mentioned above are good.

For as close to RTR as possible I would go with Small World Models. Here is a review I did on the SWM Trenchant.

http://www.subpirates.com/viewtopic.php?t=171

Cheers
BC

byzcol · Jun 28, 2006, 10:39 PM

Hi

Dave Merriman's (D&E Miniatures) 1/96th scale Skipjack with the WTC3 is almost ready to run to the same sort of level as the Blueback and SWM boats. If his catalogue prices are still current the Skipjack hull with linkages set up is about $400 and the WTC3 with Propel ballast system and motor is $360. You have to do the same things to the hull you have to do the SWM kits I believe. Here's a quote from Dave's catalogue:
http://www.vabiz.com/d&e/downloads/2...-webformat.pdf

Pre-assembled and in primer gray, only two nights work is needed to get it into the water. Control surfaces, fixed ballast weight, buoyant foam, propeller, running gear, instructions, Deep Sea Designs plans, a complete set of masts and antennas, and dry-transfer markings make this the most complete and easily assembled scale R/C submarine kit on the market today.

The WTC3 needs:
- 4-channel R/C system with two standard servos,
- Traxxas speed controller
- APC-3/4 angle keeper
- SubSafe failsafe
- 7 Volt 1500 mAH Ni-Cad battery
- battery charger
- can of Propel and Propel charging fitting.

I have driven a Skipjack BTW and that little sucker is fast in the water and turns like a fighter because of the roll associated with the sail (true to scale) which is both fun and can drive you to the bottom of the pond if you're not careful. Here's a movie of a Skipjack in action at the 05 Subregatta:
Click here to watch Skipjack-movie

Dave Manley's boats (SWM) look great as well and Skipjack and the SWM kits are about as close to RTR as you will get in this hobby. I personally am building the Subtech Albacore and there is a lot of work to do on the hull and the WTC. If I was doing this again, just to get something in the water straight off, I would have gone for the Skipjack or the Blueback to start off with.

Cheers
Byron

fgroza · Jul 02, 2006, 12:21 PM

II have a Engle Patrick Henry TAES kit for sale. $750 I also have a 1/96 Scale Shipyard Acula kit with a Small World 3.5" wtc w/motor. $400

email me at fgroza@msn.com
Frank

herrmill · Jul 02, 2006, 06:42 PM

You may want to check this kit offering from Ark Model:

http://www.arkmodel.com/C7606_e.htm

flightdog · Jul 07, 2006, 12:41 AM

Thanks..hermill...I went to that website and have requested a ready to run price on one of the submarines. Thats exactly what I was looking for. Very much appreciated.

arkmodel · Jul 07, 2006, 03:40 AM

Hello Sir,I believe many other firms supply more beautiful and excellent model submarines.
But Dragon Shark is special design for Junior who hope own a real(static diving) sub .
She has very sexy external and agility movement.the size is easy to carry.
But still some buyer complain to us that this model was investigated in their CIQ because this sub is very like a bomb in WW2!iT'S SO FUNNY!

Jun 27, 2006, 04:18 PM	#1
bos10 Registered User Joined Jun 2006 36 Posts	Looking for high-quality easy kit OR built sub I'm looking for a high-quality beginner kit that is easy to build. A Small World Models Blueback would be perfect (not looking to save any money, just remove the wait). Or a high-quality built/used sub. Needs to be scale military (WWII through current) and be a static diver.

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Jun 27, 2006, 04:48 PM	#2
rebuildit Registered User Albany County, New York, United States Joined Jan 2004 183 Posts	I enjoyed the albacore from skip . at RCboats. I found the kit easy and fun to build. I think priced right too.

Jun 27, 2006, 07:04 PM	#3
petn7 Registered User Joined Apr 2000 938 Posts	I hear the ThorDesign Permit is a nice submarine

Jun 28, 2006, 08:50 AM	#4
bcliffe Registered User Joined Jun 2004 88 Posts	All the boats mentioned above are good. For as close to RTR as possible I would go with Small World Models. Here is a review I did on the SWM Trenchant. http://www.subpirates.com/viewtopic.php?t=171 Cheers BC

Jun 28, 2006, 10:39 PM	#5
byzcol Registered User Joined Nov 2004 98 Posts	Hi Dave Merriman's (D&E Miniatures) 1/96th scale Skipjack with the WTC3 is almost ready to run to the same sort of level as the Blueback and SWM boats. If his catalogue prices are still current the Skipjack hull with linkages set up is about $400 and the WTC3 with Propel ballast system and motor is $360. You have to do the same things to the hull you have to do the SWM kits I believe. Here's a quote from Dave's catalogue: http://www.vabiz.com/d&e/downloads/2...-webformat.pdf Pre-assembled and in primer gray, only two nights work is needed to get it into the water. Control surfaces, fixed ballast weight, buoyant foam, propeller, running gear, instructions, Deep Sea Designs plans, a complete set of masts and antennas, and dry-transfer markings make this the most complete and easily assembled scale R/C submarine kit on the market today. The WTC3 needs: - 4-channel R/C system with two standard servos, - Traxxas speed controller - APC-3/4 angle keeper - SubSafe failsafe - 7 Volt 1500 mAH Ni-Cad battery - battery charger - can of Propel and Propel charging fitting. I have driven a Skipjack BTW and that little sucker is fast in the water and turns like a fighter because of the roll associated with the sail (true to scale) which is both fun and can drive you to the bottom of the pond if you're not careful. Here's a movie of a Skipjack in action at the 05 Subregatta: Click here to watch Skipjack-movie Dave Manley's boats (SWM) look great as well and Skipjack and the SWM kits are about as close to RTR as you will get in this hobby. I personally am building the Subtech Albacore and there is a lot of work to do on the hull and the WTC. If I was doing this again, just to get something in the water straight off, I would have gone for the Skipjack or the Blueback to start off with. Cheers Byron

Jul 02, 2006, 12:21 PM	#6
fgroza Registered User USA, OH, cambridge Joined Sep 2001 899 Posts	II have a Engle Patrick Henry TAES kit for sale. $750 I also have a 1/96 Scale Shipyard Acula kit with a Small World 3.5" wtc w/motor. $400 email me at fgroza@msn.com Frank

Jul 02, 2006, 06:42 PM	#7
herrmill Shanghai'd Expat Xiaoshan, China Joined Jun 2006 4,193 Posts	You may want to check this kit offering from Ark Model: http://www.arkmodel.com/C7606_e.htm

Jul 07, 2006, 12:41 AM	#8
flightdog Registered User Joined Nov 2005 98 Posts	Thanks..hermill...I went to that website and have requested a ready to run price on one of the submarines. Thats exactly what I was looking for. Very much appreciated.

Jul 07, 2006, 03:40 AM	#9
arkmodel Registered User Joined Oct 2005 291 Posts	Hello Sir,I believe many other firms supply more beautiful and excellent model submarines. But Dragon Shark is special design for Junior who hope own a real(static diving) sub . She has very sexy external and agility movement.the size is easy to carry. But still some buyer complain to us that this model was investigated in their CIQ because this sub is very like a bomb in WW2!iT'S SO FUNNY!