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Old Jun 19, 2006, 02:13 PM
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What would Muhammed do? Taliban attacks girls schools

Yet another disgusting episode in the jihadists war on human choice and freedom......

attacking schools and teachers that *dare* to teach kids of the wrong sex.... girls.

Now that's respect for women... keep them ignorant so when you beat, rape, or murder them, they figure it's Allah's will. And according to some, it is.

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Summer vacation has only begun, but as far as 12-year-old Nooria is concerned, the best thing is knowing she has a school to go back to in the fall. However, she couldn't be sure the place would stay open four months ago, after the Taliban tried to burn it down.

Late one February night, more than a dozen masked gunmen burst into the 10-room girls' school in Nooria's village, Mandrawar, about 100 miles east of Kabul. They tied up and beat the night watchman, soaked the principal's office and the library with gasoline, set it on fire and escaped into the darkness.

The townspeople, who doused the blaze before it could spread, later found written messages from the gunmen promising to cut off the nose and ears of any teacher or student who dared to return.

The threats didn't work. Within days, most of the school's 650 pupils were back to their studies. Classes were held under a grove of trees in the courtyard for several weeks, despite the winter chill, until repairs inside the one-story structure were complete. Nearby schools replaced at least some of the library's books. But the hate mail kept coming, with threats to shave the teachers' heads as well as mutilate their faces.

Earlier this month, Newsweek visited and talked to students and faculty on the last day of classes. Nooria, who dreams of becoming a teacher herself, expressed her determination to finish school. "I'm not afraid of getting my nose and ears cut off," she said, all dressed up in a long purple dress and headscarf. "I want to keep studying."

Schoolgirls need that kind of courage in Afghanistan. Unable to win on the battlefield, the Taliban are trying to discredit the Kabul government by blocking its efforts to raise Afghanistan out of its long dark age. They particularly want to undo one of the biggest changes of the past four years: the resumption of education for girls, which the Taliban outlawed soon after taking power in 1996.

"The extremists want to show the people that the government and the international community cannot keep their promises," says Ahmad Nader Nadery of the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC).

Today the Ministry of Education says the country has 1,350 girls' schools, along with 2,900 other institutions that hold split sessions, with girls-only classes in the afternoon. Coeducation is still forbidden. More than a third of Afghanistan's 5 million schoolchildren are now girls, compared with practically none in early 1992. In the last six months, however, Taliban attacks and threats of attacks have disrupted or shut down more than 300 of those schools.

Most of the closures have been in the far south, where the Taliban are strongest, but schools are also getting hit in areas that used to be relatively safe, like the fertile river valleys of Laghman province. The rock-walled compound where Nooria attends classes is one of six schools for girls in the province that have been torched so far this year. The damage at two of them was so bad that they remain closed.

In nearby Logar province, arsonists have struck 10 sister schools—all within 50 miles of Kabul. "People are extremely frightened," says Palwasha Shaheed Kakar, the AIHRC representative in neighboring Nangarhar province, where at least eight other schools have burned. "These extremists need to attack only one or two schools to send a strong message."

The girls' school in Haider Khani village, just up the main road from Mandrawar, has suffered a sharp drop in attendance since January, when masked gunmen forced their way in and torched the place. Before the attack, up to 80 percent of the families in Haider Khani were sending their daughters to school, according to the principal, Fazal Rabi. An American military Provincial Reconstruction Team quickly repaired the damage and reopened the school.

Even so, the principal reckons that only 40 percent of the village's preteen girls came back, and only 10 percent of the teenagers. Parents dread what might happen on the walk to school. Teachers get scared, too. Since the Mandrawar attack, Nooria's teacher, Farida, has traveled to and from school every day wearing a burqa and escorted by a male relative. "Otherwise I fear my nose and hair will be cut off," she told Newsweek.

Even the country's 4,250 boys-only schools are vulnerable to attack. Some enemies of the Kabul government claim that the school system is no more than a plot to impose Western ideas—even Christianity—on the country's Muslim children. Back in February, Taliban fighters threatened to shut down the boys-only school in the town of Ghanzi, an hour's drive north of Kabul, according to Malak Mirza, 55, a local tribal elder.

The townspeople sent back a warning that the Taliban would be driven out of the area if the school was attacked. The Taliban relented on one condition: no Christianity (which is very occasionally taught in Afghanistan—surreptitiously—by zealous missionaries). They distrust any education that takes place outside madrassas. "These extremists know that educated children are unlikely to follow religious extremism in the future," says Nadery. "The Taliban want to keep us backward."
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Old Jun 19, 2006, 06:02 PM
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Another "Mission Accomplished"

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Old Jun 19, 2006, 06:47 PM
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gosh, being the one place the left has said it may actually be ok to fight the jihadists, one would think they'd be ready to keep up the pressure regardless of how long it takes...

but then, being relentless when faced with relentless opposition, especially when it gets messy, has never been the strong suit of the cut n run party, (since it was taken over by the far left in the late 60's, anyway.)
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Old Jun 19, 2006, 06:56 PM
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gosh, being the one place the left has said it may actually be ok to fight the jihadists, one would think they'd be ready to keep up the pressure regardless of how long it takes...

but then, being relentless when faced with relentless opposition, especially when it gets messy, has never been the strong suit of the cut n run party, (since it was taken over by the far left in the late 60's, anyway.)
Its a bit difficult when the resorses required to do the job are being used elseware in a war that was prompted by bad inteligence and gone into with no thought as to what would happen after, and no thought on how to get out.
By the way are you taking lessons from Iwannarc on how to post
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Old Jun 19, 2006, 07:03 PM
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Its a bit difficult when the resorses required to do the job are being used elseware in a war that was prompted by bad inteligence and gone into with no thought as to what would happen after, and no thought on how to get out.
By the way are you taking lessons from Iwannarc on how to post
Since I do not agree with the lack of necessity of taking care of lose ends wherever they are regardless of how few or many resources are available, I'm not sure I agree with the conclusion, but at least you make a clearly stated point.

No, I'm not taking lessons from Iwanna. I rarely post entire articles, in fact this is one of the few times I've ever done it, and I certainly don't do it 2, 4, 15, or more times in a single thread, or consecutively.
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Old Jun 19, 2006, 07:28 PM
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There is no Muhammed.
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Old Jun 19, 2006, 11:33 PM
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The Talebans are Pushtoons - now Pushtoons are one of the lost tribes of Israel. Or at least that's what pushtoons have told me (their last name, Khan is the same as Kahn or Cohen.) Their tribal habits are stronger than their Islamic traditions, according to some.

On the other hand, I wouldn't trust our presstitutes for any news, least of all Newsweek, a internationally known bastion of US propaganda.
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 12:12 AM
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I was hoping for an Iwanna response to this one......

So let me get this straight - the Taliban are actually Jews. They get their brutality from being associated with that "tribe." And if it turns out that they are verifiably Muslims, then the reports of their brutality are falsely reported by the press.

That about right? Thanks for exceeding all of my expectations you never fail to disappoint my friend.
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 12:31 AM
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LT, I'd bet that if you questioned Iwanna closely, he may in fact believe that everyone else on the whole planet is a Jew--except him.

And we're ALL out to get him.

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Old Jun 20, 2006, 01:01 AM
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LT, I'd bet that if you questioned Iwanna closely, he may in fact believe that everyone else on the whole planet is a Jew--except him.

And we're ALL out to get him.

Rick
Pretty much in keeping with my diagnosis of him.

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I always find it sad when I am forced to conclude that someone is unwell.

However, the delusional nature of your posts, inability to argue a matter in a rational manner, avoidance behavior when confronted with logical problems in your arguments, inappropriate use of smilies and language, view that you are under attack with out cause, apparent ability to maintain employment and other social contacts, has pushed me to the view you probably suffer from a personality disorder probably a paranoid personality disorder.

You will find some information on such things here .

Get some help, you need it.
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 01:23 AM
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LT, I'd bet that if you questioned Iwanna closely, he may in fact believe that everyone else on the whole planet is a Jew--except him.

And we're ALL out to get him.

Rick
I guess with that fan avatar you cannot help but spin it
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 09:06 AM
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The Talebans are Pushtoons - now Pushtoons are one of the lost tribes of Israel. Or at least that's what pushtoons have told me

Are you referring to Pashtuns? According to that site the tiny Jewish population relocated to Israel.
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 01:35 PM
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Are you referring to Pashtuns? According to that site the tiny Jewish population relocated to Israel.
Yes, it is also spelt that way. But I was referring to the culture of the others:
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The main tenets of Pashtunwali include:

Melmastia: Hospitality and asylum to all guests seeking help. (hence their refusal to let go of OBL!)
Badal: Justice and revenge, possibly derived from ancient Israelite Mosaic Law, "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."
Zan, Zar and Zameen: Defense of women/family, treasure, and property/land.
(This includes jealousy against those messing with them, eg trying to westernize ("educate") them)

Nanawati: Humble admission of guilt for a wrong committed, which should result in automatic forgiveness from the wronged party.
The basic precepts of Pashtunwali continue to be followed by many Pashtuns, especially in rural areas and is often the center of Pashtun tribal life.
(from your source, with my emphasis & explanations)
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 01:45 PM
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You did see the word "Possibly", did you not?

And following one tenet of a culture does not make them of that culture. I celebrate Saint Patty's day, does that make me Irish?

Is this about the standard of corrolating evidence we can expect from you? Is this the mastery of logic that led you to conclude that Hawaii was discovered by Islam and named in Arabic?
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You did see the word "Possibly", did you not?

And following one tenet of a culture does not make them of that culture. I celebrate Saint Patty's day, does that make me Irish?

Is this about the standard of corrolating evidence we can expect from you? Is this the mastery of logic that led you to conclude that Hawaii was discovered by Islam and named in Arabic?
Not less than western beliefs in there being no God, and in Evolution.
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