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Old Jul 15, 2010, 12:02 PM
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If you mean "chipboard" made from small random sized fragments then I would not advise using it. If you mean parallel planks glued together you might be lucky but you dont know if they used waterproof glue during manufacture.
The Parallel glued type.
I would seal it/paint it. Is that safe enough ?
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I find old drawers a good source of near correct sized wood. Try for one piece sides. 15mm is good 20 better !
Ok now I know what to look for.
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2mm ply from model aircraft shop will bend very easily for bottom of hull, but is getting expensive. Glue and pinned .
There is no model anything shop arround here. Unless pearls and papercuts count ?
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Old Jul 15, 2010, 12:37 PM
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Ok now I know what to look for.

There is no model anything shop arround here. Unless pearls and papercuts count ?
Cardboard is a valid building material...
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Old Jul 15, 2010, 12:56 PM
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reinforced with what ?
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Old Jul 15, 2010, 01:13 PM
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Paint your planks but it will still get chipped and scraped. Epoxy resin if you feel rich, or scrounge small amount from local boat builder ? Resin for cardboard too, doesn't need glass, the card becomes the reinforcement .
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Old Jul 15, 2010, 01:30 PM
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The keel of my Springer is cardboard. It was a sheet from inside a package of x-ray film. Cut to shape and then placed onto the hull just like you would use balsa. Then covered with fiberglass and resin.
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Old Jul 15, 2010, 01:33 PM
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Card board water proofed with fiberglass and resin.

I had a deep V and a wolf class destroyer that were made out of
thin cardboard... If you look for Greenseaships posts, all his liners are cardboard.
And Tugboat Andy's mud puddle boat was cerial box from the breakfast table.

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Old Jul 15, 2010, 02:05 PM
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There is no model anything shop arround here. Unless pearls and papercuts count ?
Pearls and Papercuts? That sounds like a craft shop, maybe the Danish equivalent to our A.C.Moore---.
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Old Jul 16, 2010, 02:09 AM
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Cardboard is a valid building material...
Yup.... and I think the whole mud puddle boat including a Traxxas RX/TX from Ebay cost about $100.00.

Thanks Umi, I was biting my tongue...
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Old Jul 16, 2010, 07:50 AM
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@ der kapitan... Yes, that looks like our Panduro Hobby

Guess I have a few days to get use to the fact, that I have to build this Springer in wood. As i'm waiting for some parts...

I found a buildlog of another Springer from german forum...
http://www.schiffsmodell.net/showthread.php?t=32394
Look also good... It's in german I know, but pictures are universal

If I choose a 2 mm airplaneplywood. How long should it be...
I can get a piece that messures 300X500 mm... Is 500 mm long enough for the buttom ?
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Old Jul 16, 2010, 10:21 AM
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500mm is just the correct size , it is 230mm wide aprox.
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Old Jul 16, 2010, 11:24 AM
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It's 203 mm http://www.google.com/search?hl=da&q...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

The length is 472 mm http://www.google.com/search?hl=da&q...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

I'm talking about the buttom piece. You're sure that 500 mm is enough with the two curves ?
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Old Jul 16, 2010, 12:07 PM
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The length is 472 mm http://www.google.com/search?hl=da&q...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

I'm talking about the buttom piece. You're sure that 500 mm is enough with the two curves ?
My calculator says 18 inches = 457.2mm

I've just measured Scoot ( @ 18" ) and the bottom piece measures 19.5"... 495.3mm... You might just get away with 500mm.

When i put the bottom on a Springer, I've found it easier to put it on in two pieces with the grain running from side to side rather than along the length.
I always allow some overhang of the bottom when it goes on.. and then trim it back to the sides when the glue is dry.
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Old Jul 16, 2010, 12:15 PM
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When I type 472 you ALLWAYS meen 457... You should know this

Type error

I've ordered the 300x500x2 plywood now... Then we see how it goes...
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Old Jul 16, 2010, 12:34 PM
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I found a buildlog of another Springer from german forum...
http://www.schiffsmodell.net/showthread.php?t=32394
Look also good... It's in german I know, but pictures are universal
The metal work, and the deck washing pictures are awsome!
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Old Jul 16, 2010, 01:11 PM
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The metal work, and the deck washing pictures are awsome!
A lesson to those that want over-power the basic Springer. Pity the German Rules, or at least this club`s rules, arent sticking to the original. The wasser-polo videos were excellent, no styrene hulls there.
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