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Old May 07, 2006, 11:47 PM
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What is the most crash proof 3D plane?

My son built his first 3d plane (E-flight ultimate)and after one weekend of flying it is almost totaled. What is the most crash proof cheap 3d plane? Thanks for any help.
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Old May 08, 2006, 12:25 AM
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The "most indestructible" plane has disadvantages. I saw one that was probably indestructible but it looked and flew like a rubber band. It would not be much fun to fly. I think the most elastic 3D plane that still flys real well is the SloFly Mini. It is all epp and can really take a beating. Epp can tear but it is easily glued back together and the all new epp is only about $12.

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Old May 08, 2006, 12:26 AM
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Old May 08, 2006, 12:48 AM
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Take a look at the Revolution 3D. Or if you're looking for something smaller then try the Mini R3D
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Old May 08, 2006, 05:05 PM
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TufFlight 4D-lite

Take a look at this, make sure you see the videos:
http://www.tufflight.com/4d_lite.html
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Old May 12, 2006, 07:13 AM
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I've been learning 3D with an Ultrafly Radix bipe. It's wing loading is under 3 ounces but it is very stiff because it uses carbon rod bracing and the fuselage is a box section. It is a kit and construction skill level was not beginner, at least to get it right. I do have some recommended mods.

Mine has the new Komodo 287 motor w APC 11x4.7 and will hover till the battery droops and only get comfortably warm. The plane is strong enough to go to full up elevator from a full throttle, full aileron, straight down spin, and stiff enough to do it very abruptly. I've started to get the hang of knife edges and am starting to toy with inverted. The low wing loading makes it possible to fly in a very small area once the basics are learned.

It's not truely indestructable. I recommend reinforcing the fuselage from the motor bulkhead to a few inches behind the trailing edge. I also attached the wing bracing rods by pushing them through 1"x1" pads of a thin and light reinforcing mat, these have yet to fail. The plane has in the neighborhood of 15 hours in the air, based on the number of times I've discharged 3 to 5 lipos. The motor draws a max of about 6 amps and it flys well with a 3s 800 mAh.

After a few repairs it's weight is still only 7.7 ounces minus battery. It's worst damage was when I went flying at 6:30 AM after staying up until 2:00 AM to watch Storm of the Century from beginning to end. I forgot to switch the direction of the ailerons. The plane flys so slow that I can usually recover enough from many situations to crash on it's belly. The landing gear is suprising tough although there is another simple mod I would recommend to keep the struts from splaying.
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Old May 12, 2006, 08:28 AM
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I vote for the SX series from http://www.funplanes.com/.

Have an SX-3 with one years very hard use and it still flys fantastic. You can do stuff with this plane that will amaze you. The huge rudder allows for some easy knife edge loops and flat turns. Mine is powered by a $20 400XT from Hobby-Lobby. Batteries are 880's from Dymond. 10X6 HD prop.

Notice they are introducing an SX-4 and an indoor version. Highly recommend any of their (Yasito) designs.

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Old May 12, 2006, 09:41 AM
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The electrifly U-CAN-DO 3D EP flightflex is A good plane. I have one it flys relly good and Its not to hard to fly and its rell tuf. At $64.99 the price is not bad


Mine uses A himax 2812-0850 outrunner motor and its $63.95 at maxxprod.com
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Old May 12, 2006, 02:01 PM
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I will second Ron and say the Funplanes are pretty tough, tought myself how to fly 3D (if that is what you can call what I do) with one of there Yak's. Very tough plane.

Cheers,
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Old May 12, 2006, 02:10 PM
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I will second Ron and say the Funplanes are pretty tough, tought myself how to fly 3D (if that is what you can call what I do) with one of there Yak's. Very tough plane.

Cheers,
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Old May 12, 2006, 02:11 PM
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There is no such thing as a crash-proof plane.. Maybe damage-resistant, but nothing is going to keep a bad pilot from crashing. IMO, the most damage-resistant plane is a simulator. I do 99% of my crashing there specifically to learn how to not crash at the field.
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Old May 12, 2006, 06:07 PM
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What is the most crash proof 3D?

And the smart @&# answer of the day is: One that is flown by a good pilot.

Serious answer is:EPP, as DT suggested, look at the planes on Slofly.com

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Old May 20, 2006, 06:53 PM
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The revolution is a good plane, not sure the 4d is all that much different and 4d these days means a varible pitch prop. I am not sure I like the stick motor mount in the 4d, but would have to see the details. Both of these planes and most 3d type are what is called close coupled. Simply the control surfaces are very close to each other. They are on the twitchy side and they need to be to fly 3d. Yes they can be tamed down, at least at some throttle settings. As long as you understand this going in you will have no trouble, do pay CLOSE attention to the balance point. I like the way the Rev flys, as for durability, well I was flying the other day in condition that were on the border as fa as wind was concered. A large gust came up and was simply taking the plane away, I applied full power and down, it was now pointed directly at me and still going away, but was comming down. I chopped the throttle about 1 second before it landed on the roof of the school (I thought). I was wondering how I was going to get on the roof 20 to 25' as I walked over and feeling a little lucky that I at least knew where it was, when I spotted the plane on the sidewalk of the backside of the building.
Best case is it fell unpowerd from 20' onto a sidewalk. There was a small tear where the prop caught the foam, and that was all. It simply is a very durable plane, I doubt any plane is unbreakable, but I can assure you this one will take punishment. I did stick with silica based glue as it provides some flex, unlike CA whick seems to create a stress point, I could quibble about some of the construction, but what is the point. It works. It will not win any beauty contest, it will fly long after most are in the trash bin. It is expensive at least initally (but then again I would have destroyed three or four flat jobs by now). I had a U-CANDOO, it is not even close, though may appear similar, it tore the entire fus off the wing on a landing I would barely call rough. I have heard the mini is less stable, so probably would not be a great first choice. Sure looks like fun though....
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Old May 20, 2006, 09:35 PM
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I have crashed my R3d many many times and although it its heavier from tape and a little glue It still flys fine. If you get one It is a good idea to reinforce the nose with some strapping tape if you have trouble keeping the nose out of the ground.
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Old May 21, 2006, 09:03 AM
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I agree on the R3D, I am learning low altitude 3 D now and it has eaten dirt more times than I would like to admit...but I just walk over to it, put the prop back on the prop saver and let her rip again. Also, this plane is stable at low speeds and when I get in trouble, I usually cut the throttle and let it land. I was not a big fan of these epp planes at first, but now I see why they are so popular.

good luck in your decision.
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