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Old Oct 12, 2006, 05:01 AM
Mr. Mullins
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Excellent Tim, thank you.

Do you use 6mm depron? Also wondering wich glue to use? CA medium og hot gun?

Tomas


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Hi Tomas, Malves and all,

try this conversion to A4 tiled of version 4. I havn't printed it but it should be OK. Just make sure you print it at 100% and don't allow adobe to shrink it to 96% like it does to fit it on the page.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 05:05 AM
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Not that I have built this one YET it depends if you are building for inside F3P or outdoor lightwind fun? Also what motor/battery combination are you thinking of using?

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 05:29 AM
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Thanks Tim

I want to built it for outdoor flying, light breeze.

Wanted to try out a Hyperion 1200mAh pack with 50gr motor.

Do you think it will be to heavy? I also have Flight Power 800mAh 2S pack.

Do you have some tips for how to make the motor mout.

Sorry, I am new to builing depron models

Tomas

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Not that I have built this one YET it depends if you are building for inside F3P or outdoor lightwind fun? Also what motor/battery combination are you thinking of using?

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 06:06 AM
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As you want outdoor best go for the 6mm for durability, it wll also simplify the bracing and spars needed.

You could still use the 2S800's you have and look at a 30-40g motor to suit. This should keep the overall weight down around 200g. If you start looking at 50g motors and 1200's you could finishup closer to 300g which won't be as nice to fly.

Also if you are flying off anything not perfect, drop the wheels and install a hard 6x6mm balsa skid on the bottom of the body.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 06:40 AM
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OK, Tim

Thank you for your advice.

Tomas

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As you want outdoor best go for the 6mm for durability, it wll also simplify the bracing and spars needed.

You could still use the 2S800's you have and look at a 30-40g motor to suit. This should keep the overall weight down around 200g. If you start looking at 50g motors and 1200's you could finishup closer to 300g which won't be as nice to fly.

Also if you are flying off anything not perfect, drop the wheels and install a hard 6x6mm balsa skid on the bottom of the body.

Regards

Tim
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Old Oct 12, 2006, 09:07 AM
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Just remember to grab the Foam Safe CA, and Kicker works too. It is better with the thicker stuff. I have seen the thin foam safe ca melt foam when used with kicker. Also, blenderm tape is perfect for hinges, and is lighter in weight that packing tape. Enjoy the build!
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Old Oct 12, 2006, 09:25 AM
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Thanx for the tile plans, Tim. That will sure help some ppl here.

I use UHU Creative glue for the wing spars and foam safe CA for everyting else.

When using kicker, use a lil as you can. I usualy use a q-tip to apply it. During the hardening process, CA glue generates heat. If you use too much glue and too much kicker, the heat will be more intense because of the accelerated dyring, and melt the foam.

Mine weighs ~160g and it does really good in light breeze. I've even flown it in 10mph winds. You may have to adjust the cuts in the plans for 6mm.
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Old Oct 12, 2006, 11:56 AM
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Just remember to grab the Foam Safe CA, and Kicker works too. It is better with the thicker stuff. I have seen the thin foam safe ca melt foam when used with kicker. Also, blenderm tape is perfect for hinges, and is lighter in weight that packing tape. Enjoy the build!
even better than tape is floppy disk hinges.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 12:40 PM
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Floppy disk hinges?

...by which you mean pieces of a 5 1/4" disk?
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Old Oct 12, 2006, 01:35 PM
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3 1/2" works too.
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Old Oct 12, 2006, 03:42 PM
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floppy disks are the best
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Old Oct 12, 2006, 04:15 PM
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I also like the "barn door" type hinges. Less tape, less weight, more throws, resistance free.
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Old Oct 12, 2006, 11:07 PM
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Hi Malves,

I need to spend a little more time playing with my chopping method for plans. I would like to add alignment marks to make putting them back together again. If I sort it out as a method using freeware I will do a how to here.

For hinges I have just been using 3M Diamond Tape (glorified stickytape) it seems to handle UV really well and is pure clear.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 11:40 PM
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floppy disks rules! and the rest of it can be used to make control horns!
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Old Oct 13, 2006, 01:36 PM
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Hi Malves,
As I was searching the internet on Depron, I saw your conversation about the Yak-54.
as I am totally new on indoor and park flyers, I would like to ask you the following:
Can you tell me what configuration (motor, prop, lipo battery, receiver, servo's etcetera) you are using on this plane.
I'm flying model airplanes for more than 25 years now, but I want to begin with indoor/park flying.
Nobody at our club has any experience with these kind of planes, so Iím "investigating" the possibilities.
Thanks so far.
Regards Paul La Fors (the Netherlands)
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