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Old Nov 27, 2010, 02:13 PM
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IMPORTANT NOTICE:

I flew the "25ft Tiger Moth" today. First flight for a long time. I flew it around the yard and, true to form... it will not fly any higher than about 25ft. For those of you who do not know the legend of the 25ft. Moth... it really won't fly higher than 25ft. I know why it won't but the hard core's in here refuse to let me change it. Otherwise, they would have nothing to tease me about. I have pictures to upload, but I need to get them out of the camera.

These pictures are specifically posted for Aeronca, Doug Sipprell, Pat Daily, Led Kitty, Jay at AMA, and all others who have consistently been fans of this plane.

They are also posted in memory of Keith, Boomer, his wife Jackie, BasketCase and all of our other TM pilots who have been called by a higher power.

Pictures will be posted shortly....

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Old Nov 27, 2010, 02:21 PM
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Although I don't post much, I do read and keep up alot. Good to hear the 25ft Moth is still around.

The little GWS TM is one of my all time favorite planes. About to build a new one actually, probably in January. Looking forward to pics
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Old Nov 27, 2010, 03:07 PM
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IMPORTANT NOTICE:

I flew the "25ft Tiger Moth" today. First flight for a long time. I flew it around the yard and, true to form... it will not fly any higher than about 25ft. For those of you who do not know the legend of the 25ft. Moth... it really won't fly higher than 25ft. I know why it won't but the hard core's in here refuse to let me change it. Otherwise, they would have nothing to tease me about. I have pictures to upload, but I need to get them out of the camera.

These pictures are specifically posted for Aeronca, Doug Sipprell, Pat Daily, Led Kitty, Jay at AMA, and all others who have consistently been fans of this plane.

They are also posted in memory of Keith, Boomer, his wife Jackie, BasketCase and all of our other TM pilots who have been called by a higher power.

Pictures will be posted shortly....

Buzz
WOW!! You took pictures?? I didn't know they made 25' step ladders!

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Old Nov 27, 2010, 03:14 PM
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Is the GWS Tiggie the undisputed ARF champ??

Okay all of you Pico Moth addicts, you have convinced me to build my second ARF, the GWS Pico Moth!

I recently finished and flew, just before the snows arrived, the new Great Planes Slow Fly Tiger Moth. I have been a Tiggie fan for years, and decided to try one of the fast building ones. The Great Lakes moth was a lot of fun to put together and I loved the way it flew. It was the first foam airplane I have flown that flies BETTER than balsa. But the undisputed champ, according to this thread, is the Pico Tiggie.

So the gauntlet has been thrown down!

I ordered the unpowered version of the Pico Moth and have been going through the few posts on this thread. Pat builds beautiful Tiggies, and I love his China float plane, so listened to his advice, and decided to knock on the door of his motor vendor, Heads Up RC. Jeff Anderson, of Head Up, recommended a slightly different motor:

http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...lectric/Detail

Here's what he had to say:

"The 2712-12 can certainly be used, but this is the set up that I usually recommend for the Pico Moth:

2712-17 motor
10A ESC
GWS 8040 prop
3mm Prop Adapter
7.4v 800 20C Lipo battery

"The 1700KV motor allows you to use an 8 inch prop with a light 2 cell Lipo battery. If you used a 2 cell Lipo with the 1200KV motor, you would have to use a bigger prop to get enough thrust, and that wouldn't look good on the model.

"The 1200KV motor would be fine if you wanted to use a 3 cell Lipo."

Pat, have you been sneaking 3 cell packs under your hood when flying from water? And Buzz, I have been enjoying your tales of the Moth with the 25 foot ceiling. But then it occurred to me that you may live out in the boonies in some hollow or sink hole well below sea level. Is this a riddle??

Dick

BTW, Pat, I put my whole Great Lakes Tiggie together with canopy glue and just noticed that you are using it as well. Happy to see someone else loves its attributes!!
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Old Nov 27, 2010, 03:19 PM
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Okay all of you Pico Moth addicts, you have convinced me to build my second ARF, the GWS Pico Moth! ...
Ha! Bet you can't build JUST ONE!

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Old Nov 27, 2010, 03:34 PM
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WOW!! You took pictures?? I didn't know they made 25' step ladders!

Aeronca

See what I mean? They're relentless.

Mr. Aeronca.... these pictures are no where close to 25ft. LOL I'm floating around about 5 ft. high! After I landed, the Chinese pilot got out and cursed at me. Just for that I'm going to put him in the Super Moth and see how he likes vertical climbs to a speck, and passes around 80mph. He's gonna need some air sick bags. Ha!

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Old Nov 27, 2010, 03:42 PM
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See what I mean? They're relentless.

Mr. Aeronca.... these pictures are no where close to 25ft. LOL I'm floating around about 5 ft. high! ... Buzz
We're not interested in how high YOU were [you DID open the door!] - we want to see the pics of the TM!

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Old Nov 27, 2010, 03:56 PM
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Behold! The 25ft Tiger Moth! Still running on the original IPS motor & 9070 prop.
She's 7 years old and has about 200 flights.
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Old Nov 27, 2010, 03:59 PM
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We're not interested in how high YOU were [you DID open the door!] - we want to see the pics of the TM!

Aeronca
Sigh.... LOL! I was my usualy 6 ft! I'm tellin' ya'.... youse guys is RUTHLESS!
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Old Nov 27, 2010, 04:12 PM
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Tigers with ailerons?

Anyone tried ailerons on the TM? How did it fly?

I would like to get fairly nice rolls with a TM; maybe add strip ailerons to the trailing edges. If the undercamber hurts the rolls, maybe I will design new wings with flat bottoms, and ailerons. My TM weighs 8.5 oz; 5oz/ft.sq. loading. another ounce for ailerons won't hurt the slow flite much.

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Old Nov 27, 2010, 04:44 PM
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I have a castle creations pixie 7p in original packaging I will never use. It's at home and I won't be there till Sunday but I can send that out to you if you want it.
I'd take it to try it.
Something is astray. Any batts feed at 7.7 or more. 1.3 amps or so. The motor just runs at WOT for a bit and then starts loosing rpms. It's the second IPS I put in the gear box, had one laying around. Could be that they are both doa....I guess.

Are the stock powered "chuncky" in the gear box? Is 1.3 amps about right at 2S volts?

Could the ESC really be heating up or decreasing volts some how? I gotta think it's the motor(s).

It's not the batts?

Looking forward to skimming the snow again soon. It's a good one to fly with gloves on.

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Old Nov 27, 2010, 04:45 PM
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.....They are also posted in memory of Keith, Boomer, his wife Jackie, BasketCase and all of our other TM pilots who have been called by a higher power.....

Buzz
I remember being here (this thread) years ago and I remember some of those guys.

God rest their souls.

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Old Nov 27, 2010, 04:47 PM
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Alright, one more before I go back out ot the shop to assemble the tail feathers on the V68:



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Old Nov 27, 2010, 04:55 PM
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Behold! The 25ft Tiger Moth! Still running on the original IPS motor & 9070 prop.
She's 7 years old and has about 200 flights.
She's held up well, Buzz! Good to see her back in the sky, as it were...

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Old Nov 27, 2010, 05:54 PM
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Moths in the attic??

Aeronca, with the soon to be arriving Pico Moth, I will have a fleet of FIVE Tiger Moths.

My first was from a 1976 plan by Walt Mitchell published in the defunct RCM. A 35" WS blow up of the old Tern Aero rubber kit. She's powered by a geared Speed 400. Still airworthy, she has been my all time favorite one to putt around with. My second was a micro R/C conversion of the original Tern Aero kit. A very nice flying bird for dead calm or indoor. My third was my own 29" WS design for floats that is called the Shoebox Moth, because she is designed to break down. My latest the Electrify Moth.

I have an addiction to Tiggies, I think! I'll let you know this spring how the Pico compares. I plan to do break down things with her, as I have done with all of my Tiggies.

Fun, fun!

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