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Old Nov 10, 2006, 04:59 PM
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...The 3D moth does not have the regular wing braces, but instead uses a solid styro brace on each wing. It also has ailerons and is 4 channel setup. I'll tell ya, for $25 you can't go wrong for the money.

I wonder if the 3D model will go straight up ..... above 25ft?
The 3D moth does go straight up (provided you reset the trims on the Tx when you switch models, or set the trim memory--failing that can make it quite "sporty", but don't ask me how I found out). The struts on my 3D (w/ 10 amp Feigao 130 and 3S-1250) didn't survive the first few flights, The upper wing folded up during a loop, probvably right after the struts failed in tension. So I put a cf rod in the upper wing (would have been lots easier to do before the wing was mounted) and glassed the struts, also used fiberglass to connect the struts to the wing skins. Now it doesn't fall apart in a quick turn or loop, but it still flies too fast to be a relaxing backyard or cul-de-sac flier. But it does look nice going more or less straight up and doing rolls at the same time--I just can't fly well enough to go straight up while rolling.
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Old Nov 10, 2006, 05:38 PM
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I'm putting CF on both wings and am using balsa struts from allerc (the ones with the GWS cutouts). It's not a slow easy flyer IMO but rather a zippy BL 3D'er. I'll be interested to see how long it lasts. lol. How 'bout some rolling loops hehehe.
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Old Nov 10, 2006, 05:46 PM
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Aussie Toyman,

Glad to have you onboard. Let us know how your build and maiden go. I'm sure you'll fall in love soon after her first takeoff. You don't HAVE to read all the old stuff if you don't want to. You can just jump right in here if you like.

Later,
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Old Nov 11, 2006, 09:56 AM
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For everyone except you, Buzz.

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Hey Buzz, send it to me, I'll make it go above 25 feet NP! BTW, I have some Jato rockets to sell you!
You mean it's not the plane? I never considered that!

TEOR, I did have a fleeting thought about Estes rocket engines.

I can see it now, screaming down the runway as the melting foam leaves a trail of fire.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 06:48 AM
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Corey,
Glad I don't have to read ALL the pages or my TM would never get built, hehehe.

I got the bug a few months ago when I saw a friends TM flying at an indoor meet. It wasn't till I crashed my Pico Stick and it didn't look repairable that I could justify the TM.

Build progressing and should be finished in a couple of days if I'm lucky. My wife has to see the maiden flight of each of my planes so it means I should have some pics if she can keep it in frame.

Regards,
Jon
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 07:22 AM
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Jon,
That's great that you have a photographer and chearleader for every maiden! I have a difficult time getting my buddies out to see a World Tour aircraft flight (very special one) let alone for any other flights. If you have pics we'd love to see them. Even of a build or almost complete one. Did you go with the yellow or a different colour scheme?
I'm sure you'll be as hooked as the rest of us as soon as you get your thumbs on her.
Where in Aus are you? I've been up and down the East coast a few places. What an absolutely beautiful country Austrailia is....
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 03:19 PM
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May of 2003 at 4:30am............ Corey posted this message... the first message that created this thread.

My First Plane - GWS Tiger Moth - A Newbie's Story

Well hello all,

As you probably guessed from the title of the thread...... I am a newbie, and I'm building a GWS Tiger Moth. I know this is nothing new to most of you, but it is to me. And I really wanted my "own thread" to document my experience.

I recieved it today, (thanks again Etonic) and decided to go about this a little more slowly than some of you experienced builders. Just so I don't make any mistakes, also so I can incorporate some of the feedback I get on building it.

My Tiger Moth is unpainted. SOooooooo, I really don't want to have the regular yellow moth that most people have. I would really like to do something out of the ordinary. What do you think of a metallic purple/blue Moth with black trim? (I'm hoping someday to work up to WWII fighters that will have realistic paint jobs, so no complaining.)

One of the other things I was thinking, but isn't so out of the ordinary, is that I will be sanding the foam "bumps" out of the fuse. But I also plan on filling the seam along the fuse with lightweight spackle. Would this cause any issues with painting?

Anyway, enough for tonight. (this morning..... its 3:35am) I will be posting details on hardware soon. I just wanted to throw this thread into the mix to get it started. Later all.

Enemy


I believe this has to be one of...if not the largest and longest running threads on this site. I remember the day I first read Corey's post... and more and more of us chimed in .... There are 1500+ posts in just this thread alone. The nearly 7 years of activity here might make it the longest running thread on the site... think about it... 29 threads averaging around 1500 messages each. We are nearing aHALF MILLION posts!!!! To be more exact, we're around 449,500 posts!

I know Corey had no idea that the thread he started would explode as it did. None of us would have believed ANY thread could run this long AND contain so much information it is like a 29 part encyclopedia all for the sake of one small foam biplane. I don't think this thread will ever end... at least I hope it doesn't. How many times have we all come here for answers and to share information? And, those of us who have been here since the beginning.... have nearly become an international family of people who love this little plane. And, it continues to grow! That says a LOT about this airplane. It also says a lot about the core group of people who have stayed with this thread.... again, all for the love of a small biplane and to help ANYone who has a question, a problem... or just wants to show their unique tweaks and custom mods for the GWS Tiger Moth. Personally, I can't believe it's been 7 years since I built my Moth. I also cannot believe that in 7 years of talking and joking about my Moth.... it's STILL never been over 25ft. high. Anyway, I was just waxing nostalgic about the amount of time that has passed... and the fact that this thread contines on and on and on. We've lost a few key players here... Chuck, Gene, Basketcase doesn't post much anymore.... but look at people like Boomer and Wes and the rest of us who have always met here. We're all addicts! Admit it! This is our 12 step program!

"My name is Buzz, and I am a Mothaholic"! It's ok... the first step is to admit that you have a problem. This especially pertains to Doug Sipperell... Hahahahaha!
Boomer is in the same class.... now, really.... who else would built a Slow Stick with EIGHT motors!!!??? I'll stop rambling.... but I thought it was quite a tribute to the Tiger Moth and to all who carry this thread on. 500,000 posts looms on the horizon.
It will take a special airplane to overshadow this thread.... I don't know of any other airplane that draws this much attention....and has such a huge world wide following. Just think how rich we have made Mr. Lin!

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Old Nov 12, 2006, 03:27 PM
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Man Buzz, talk about well put. Watch it tho, I heard Boomer is looking to do some traveling. You might wake up to your Moth on the table with Boomer strapping on 8 little pager motors to it as 2020 props! LOL Cool idea to bring this all up, I am happy to be part of this group as well. Thanks to everyone.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 03:55 PM
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Well I got here late to the party, and I won't say I tried to read through all 29 threads. I did look at All the pictures though. Hey, got to do something while sitting on hold at work.

I wonder what it is about this plane that makes it so addictive? Its not exactly scale, or detailed. Mine was warped in the box. Half the parts get discarded while building, and it begs for some serious redesign before flying. But its my favorite plane. I wouldn't change a thing about it. Maybe thats it. Maybe that each one is a custom job, built buy its owner to reflect their taste. There sure a bunch of very unique Tigermoths out there.


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Man Buzz, talk about well put. Watch it tho, I heard Boomer is looking to do some traveling. You might wake up to your Moth on the table with Boomer strapping on 8 little pager motors to it as 2020 props! LOL Cool idea to bring this all up, I am happy to be part of this group as well. Thanks to everyone.
This would be a case of an Irresistable force meeting an immovable object. Could Boomer actualy make the 25 foot moth break the 25 celing?
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 05:04 PM
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thinkin about it

I've been buildin and flyin fff stuff for about a year now. I've been thinkin about the Tiger Moth for a while but good lord I could never read all the stuff to make the proper mods and get the thing flyin.

Is there a list somewhere that is quick and straight to the point as to what should be done to the moth to make it stronger and fly better?

I have a few esskay 400's around but I am wonderin if they may be a bit heavy for the pico moth? Also is it just as well to go with the brushed motor or toss it and go brushless? I have the stuff to go either way.

Can someone put together a list of the mods?

Thanks for the help
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 05:06 PM
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Well put Buzz! This is a family! AS to making Buzz's TM break the 25" barrier. Well any plane I have powered with over 150W/lb really doesn't need wings to spec out! Of course the first SS I did this to before I started building SS "Tanks" folded the wings and lawn darted right next to a neighbor who was watching. He calmly walked over and pulled what was left of the plane out of his Roddy bush and handed it to me over the fence! Then there was the first TM I added ailerons to. On the maiden it suddenly became hard to control and on landing found the outside tip of the lower wing had folded at the aileron cut! Then there was the time I buzzed a stray cat with my TM and he jumped up and caught it in mid air. and then there was .................................................. ............
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 05:22 PM
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Well put Buzz! This is a family! AS to making Buzz's TM break the 25" barrier. Well any plane I have powered with over 150W/lb really doesn't need wings to spec out! Of course the first SS I did this to before I started building SS "Tanks" folded the wings and lawn darted right next to a neighbor who was watching. He calmly walked over and pulled what was left of the plane out of his Roddy bush and handed it to me over the fence! Then there was the first TM I added ailerons to. On the maiden it suddenly became hard to control and on landing found the outside tip of the lower wing had folded at the aileron cut! Then there was the time I buzzed a stray cat with my TM and he jumped up and caught it in mid air. and then there was .................................................. ............
boomer
ROFLMAO! Mr. Lin never reckoned on a Boomer!

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Old Nov 12, 2006, 09:58 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHH! Ok, we need a good Enemy & Kitty story next.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 10:23 PM
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May of 2003 at 4:30am............ Corey posted this message... the first message that created this thread.......The nearly 7 years of activity here might make it the longest running thread on the site...
Hmmm............. 11/06 minus 05/03 = 3-1/2 years. What happened to the other 3-1/2 years?? Did I miss something here??

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the first step is to admit that you have a problem. This especially pertains to Doug Sipperell...
Ah....could you be a bit more specific??

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Old Nov 12, 2006, 10:59 PM
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I have to thank Corey for helping me find my 3rd plane, the TM #1. She still flies from time to time, and looks great decorating in my Son's room. I can't wait until he's old enough to actually fly her. Since he's only 8 months, I guess that's at least a year or so away (LOL)....

I have read every post, and I have learned so much I can't imagine trying to catch up. But it would be worth it to a newbie without a doubt. And Corey's name does not match his persona... sorry man. Should be "The Friend."

Happy Landings!
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